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05-19-2011, 01:33 PM
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Mullins to Fight 70-Day Ban to 'Bitter End'
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-to-bitter-end
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Frank Moore, chief of the CHRB's investigation unit from November 2000 until his retirement in February 2007, supports Mullins' contention that he was being pursued by Fermin.
"The truth is we were targeting Jeff Mullins; he was one of several trainers," Moore said. "We were concentrating on him. We had his barn under surveillance. We stationed investigators there."
Barn searches, he said, were routine and the horses of certain trainers, including Mullins, were subject to out-of-competition testing for blood doping.
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05-19-2011, 01:39 PM
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Things are not always what they seem. If the allegations are true, and I think they are then Mullins and some other Trainers are going to get some bucks when this is all done.
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CHRB Whistle Blower Sues Agency
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...er-sues-agency
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He claimed, in an interview, that he has the documentation to prove that Fermin and Shapiro misused the testing system for Total Carbon Dioxide (TCO2), known as "green sheets," to target individual trainers for prosecution. They also used insider information to warn favored trainers of upcoming tests for particular medications, he charged, and circumvented state hiring practices to employ trainer Darrell Vienna as a board consultant and Dr. Rick Arthur as the CHRB's equine medical director.
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05-19-2011, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by andymays
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-to-bitter-end
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Frank Moore, chief of the CHRB's investigation unit from November 2000 until his retirement in February 2007, supports Mullins' contention that he was being pursued by Fermin.
"The truth is we were targeting Jeff Mullins; he was one of several trainers," Moore said. "We were concentrating on him. We had his barn under surveillance. We stationed investigators there."
Barn searches, he said, were routine and the horses of certain trainers, including Mullins, were subject to out-of-competition testing for blood doping.
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But if Mullins didnt cheat, he wouldnt have had anything to worry about, right? Its not like they planted evidence.
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05-19-2011, 01:50 PM
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But if Mullins didnt cheat, he wouldnt have had anything to worry about, right? Its not like they planted evidence.
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In my opinion the majority of the Trainers at the time would have had the same positives but the favored Trainers were ignored or warned of pending testing.
Horseplayers need to get this because the real bad guys are some of the people that run racing.
They love to grandstand on this issue because the public eats it up. If this goes to trial and the other targeted Trainers join in then the public will hear some mind blowing testimony.
I'm not saying that Mullins is an angel but the process in California has always been cooked to favor certain people in all areas.
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05-19-2011, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by andymays
In my opinion the majority of the Trainers at the time would have had the same positives but the favored Trainers were ignored or warned of pending testing.
Horseplayers need to get this because the real bad guys are some of the people that run racing.
They love to grandstand on this issue because the public eats it up. If this goes to trial and the other targeted Trainers join in then the public will hear some mind blowing testimony.
I'm not saying that Mullins is an angel but the process in California has always been cooked to favor certain people in all areas.
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Lets hope it goes to trial and all the dirty laundry gets aired.
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05-19-2011, 01:55 PM
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Lets hope it goes to trial and all the dirty laundry gets aired.
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Absolutely.
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05-19-2011, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by andymays
In my opinion the majority of the Trainers at the time would have had the same positives but the favored Trainers were ignored or warned of pending testing.Horseplayers need to get this because the real bad guys are some of the people that run racing.
They love to grandstand on this issue because the public eats it up. If this goes to trial and the other targeted Trainers join in then the public will hear some mind blowing testimony.
I'm not saying that Mullins is an angel but the process in California has always been cooked to favor certain people in all areas.
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Even if this is true, it doesnt give Mullins a reason to complain at all. It is like having 10 criminals stealing things and having the two who got caught saying they shouldnt get punished because the others werent so closely scrutinized.....like SRU said, if he didnt cheat, he would have nothing to worry about
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05-19-2011, 02:24 PM
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I read a quote from a highway patrolman.
After pulling a driver over for speeding, the driver asked, "How come you pulled me over? Everybody is speeding."
The trooper said, "Do you fish?"
"Yeah."
"Do you catch every fish in the lake?"
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05-19-2011, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Relwob Owner
Even if this is true, it doesnt give Mullins a reason to complain at all. It is like having 10 criminals stealing things and having the two who got caught saying they shouldnt get punished because the others werent so closely scrutinized.....like SRU said, if he didnt cheat, he would have nothing to worry about
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If this is true he will win several million dollars in court. If the allegations are true regarding the targeting of certain trainers then how do we know they didn't falsify the testing to get rid of him?
This is going to be a big deal when it's all said and done.
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05-19-2011, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnGalt1
I read a quote from a highway patrolman.
After pulling a driver over for speeding, the driver asked, "How come you pulled me over? Everybody is speeding."
The trooper said, "Do you fish?"
"Yeah."
"Do you catch every fish in the lake?"
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What happens to all the cases that a corrupt cop has been involved in?
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05-19-2011, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by andymays
If this is true he will win several million dollars in court. If the allegations are true regarding the targeting of certain trainers then how do we know they didn't falsify the testing to get rid of him?
This is going to be a big deal when it's all said and done.
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Why would he win several million dollars? Because he was targeted and caught? Do you have any sort of legal precedence supporting your prediction?
It would seem simple for the powers that be out there to claim that they dont have the time or man power to catch every person doing something wrong and that they have to consolidate their efforts the way they did with JM.........plus, if there was some sort of personal bias found to be, that person could simply say he/she didnt like cheaters, no?
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05-19-2011, 02:49 PM
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Why would he win several million dollars? Because he was targeted and caught? Do you have any sort of legal precedence supporting your prediction?
It would seem simple for the powers that be out there to claim that they dont have the time or man power to catch every person doing something wrong and that they have to consolidate their efforts the way they did with JM.........plus, if there was some sort of personal bias found to be, that person could simply say he/she didnt like cheaters, no?
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How do you know they didn't tamper with the samples? The process for testing was not fair so why should we believe that everything else was on the up and up?
I don't understand why you're not outraged at the Racing Officials involved and the CHRB.
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05-19-2011, 02:57 PM
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This is kind of like the Italian Mafia complaining that they should get off on the basis that they were targeted but the Russian Mafia wasn't.
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05-19-2011, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Horseplayersbet.com
This is kind of like the Italian Mafia complaining that they should get off on the basis that they were targeted but the Russian Mafia wasn't.
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I totally get that everyone hates Mullins but the stuff that went on in California Racing was inexcusable. The courts will decide this one and the CHRB will most likely be getting out the checkbook.
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05-19-2011, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by andymays
How do you know they didn't tamper with the samples? The process for testing was not fair so why should we believe that everything else was on the up and up?
I don't understand why you're not outraged at the Racing Officials involved and the CHRB.
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How do you know they did? Because of a disgruntled employee accusing them? There is absolutely no proof yet, is there?
Again, what is your basis for saying Mullins and other trainers will "make millions" in a lawsuit? Proof? Legal precedence?
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