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Old 08-24-2017, 08:15 PM   #31
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Won both his races on the wrong lead under a hard drive. The only time he saw a sharp 6f fraction he crumpled like a cheap suit.

He's a bad gate horse, but by drawing the outside post he'll probably load last so he has that going for him, which is nice.
Well, he is a 30/1 ML longest shot on the board for a reason or 12.
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Old 08-24-2017, 09:20 PM   #32
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Well, he is a 30/1 ML longest shot on the board for a reason or 12.
I would say he's a young Cinderella who's coming outta nowhere, but since he's regally bred and owned by royalty I guess not...

Sheik Shadwell: "Hey young fella...I was hoping you could squeeze in 10 furlongs on Saturday..."

Fayeq: "Uh...certainly your Eminency..."
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Old 08-25-2017, 01:07 AM   #33
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looking at lee will be closing like crazy watch out
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:51 AM   #34
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:14 AM   #35
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I will play a 7-Always Dreaming/8-Lookin At Lee/3-West Coast exacta box just to improve my interest in watching the race. Graded stakes at this level are mostly fun to watch, but getting the winner in my case = total crap shoot.
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Old 08-25-2017, 02:31 PM   #36
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Tapwrit has zero chance.
After looking more at the race, and looking at different ways that race flow may develop, Tapwrit may be involved, and get a good trip.

He could be somewhat forwardly placed and at least finish the 10f distance with energy.
It's quite possible that the race will be friendly to those who are forwardly placed. It would be reckless to commit to tossing Tapwrit.

In a forward-friendly flow, someone like Tapwrit or Irap or Cloud Computing seem like they would benefit.

West Coast looks very strong to me. I think he can move into contention, even if the finish is made from mostly forwardly-placed horses.
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Old 08-25-2017, 03:23 PM   #37
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Doesn't get much better than this. Who do you like?

  1. Cloud Computing 8-1
  2. Giuseppe the Great 20-1
  3. West Coast 4-1
  4. Tapwrit 7-2
  5. Good Samaritan 5-1
  6. Girvin 10-1
  7. Always Dreaming 6-1
  8. Lookin at Lee 30-1
  9. McCraken 12-1
  10. Irap 8-1
  11. Gunnevera 20-1
  12. Fayeq 30-1
This reminds me of handicapping a 2YrOld maiden race where you don't have the slightest idea of how anybody's going to run, so you pick the bottom third of the field.

After some thinking, i'm going to throw out the TC race winners and the Haskell winner, I just have a feeling that this will be the first year ever (at least that I can remember) where there will be five different three-year-olds that win the big five G1's (derby, preakness, belmont, haskell & travers). Am I wrong?

Also going to toss West Coast, because Baffert's Travers' record is horrible, notwithstanding arrogate. Leaning toward McCraken.
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:36 PM   #38
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This reminds me of handicapping a 2YrOld maiden race where you don't have the slightest idea of how anybody's going to run, so you pick the bottom third of the field.

After some thinking, i'm going to throw out the TC race winners and the Haskell winner, I just have a feeling that this will be the first year ever (at least that I can remember) where there will be five different three-year-olds that win the big five G1's (derby, preakness, belmont, haskell & travers). Am I wrong?

Also going to toss West Coast, because Baffert's Travers' record is horrible, notwithstanding arrogate. Leaning toward McCraken.
Point Given?
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Old 08-25-2017, 07:52 PM   #39
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This reminds me of handicapping a 2YrOld maiden race where you don't have the slightest idea of how anybody's going to run, so you pick the bottom third of the field.

After some thinking, i'm going to throw out the TC race winners and the Haskell winner, I just have a feeling that this will be the first year ever (at least that I can remember) where there will be five different three-year-olds that win the big five G1's (derby, preakness, belmont, haskell & travers). Am I wrong?

Also going to toss West Coast, because Baffert's Travers' record is horrible, notwithstanding arrogate. Leaning toward McCraken.
Yes. 2013, 2011, 2000, 1996, and 1992, within recent memory, all had five different winners of those races.
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Old 08-25-2017, 08:52 PM   #40
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Going to go with Good Samaratin

has a win over the track..Mott not happy about losing his horses to Chad Brown..Mott said, he could have higher winning% if he is more selective with his races, but he runs his horses even if they have no shot to win(sometimes)
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:33 PM   #41
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Point Given?
Between Point Given and Arrogate he’s had quite a few flops. Just off the top of my head Liaison(finished 9th), Coil(10th), Bayern(10th), Roman ruler (3rd), and American Pharoah(2nd) the last four were Haskell winners who went off at low odds. You can correct me if I’m wrong (and I’ve been a lot of that lately ) but I believe Point Given and Arrogate were his only Traver’s wins.
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Old 08-25-2017, 10:33 PM   #42
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Thanks for the file Jocko!
Happy I can help!!!!
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I can't figure this one out. Just guessing w/Good Samaritan, Irap, Gunnevera. Javier Castellano has won the Travers an unprecedented five times in just nine tries. His Win ROI in the race is a spectacular $11.17.
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:54 PM   #44
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Travers – Race 11

My Top 5 (Pre-tote analysis) in no special order.

PP - Entry – M/L....................Pace Breakdown

#3 - West Coast - 4-1…………………..….ON
#5 - Good Samaritan - 5-1……………….……..OFF
#6 - Girvin - 10-1……………………….......….……OFF
#9 - McCraken - 12-1…………………....…….….OFF
#10 - Irap - 8-1……………….……..…..…...ON

My Tosses –
#1 – Cloud Computing - 8-1……..MK
#2 - Giuseppe the Great - 20-1…………ON
#4 - Tapwrit - 7-2…………………….......….ON
#7 - Always Dreaming - 6-1….....MK
#8 - Lookin at Lee - 30-1…………………....….OFF
#11- Gunnevera - 20-1...........................OFF
#12 - Fayeq - 30-1………....………..MK – (O’Neils’s Rabbit)
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Fayeq, Irap, Good Samaritan and Gunnevera boxed in exacta, trifecta and superfecta.
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