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03-09-2019, 07:08 PM
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Muddy
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mi.
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New p-4 bet
It will be the last 2 races from the meadowlands and the last two from Woodbine Mohawk park. Called the CAM-AM pick-4 Makes its debut on Friday, March 22.
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03-10-2019, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy
It will be the last 2 races from the meadowlands and the last two from Woodbine Mohawk park. Called the CAM-AM pick-4 Makes its debut on Friday, March 22.
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Anytime there is something new in harness its good I suppose. 
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03-10-2019, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy
It will be the last 2 races from the meadowlands and the last two from Woodbine Mohawk park. Called the CAM-AM pick-4 Makes its debut on Friday, March 22.
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Who is sponsoring the bet? 20 cents or 50 cents?
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03-10-2019, 10:16 PM
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20 cents.
I believe it starts at Mohawk and alternates tracks ending at Meadowlands
15% takeout
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03-21-2019, 05:04 PM
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Muddy
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mi.
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The Can-Am Pick 4 sequence is as follows:
Leg One: Woodbine Mohawk Park – Race 10 (Post Time: 10:40 p.m.)
Leg Two: The Meadowlands – Race 10 (Post Time: 10:52 p.m.)
Leg Three: Woodbine Mohawk Park – Race 11 (Post Time: 11:04 p.m.)
Leg Four: The Meadowlands – Race 11 (Post Time: 11:16 p.m.)
The Can-Am Pick 4 requires horseplayers to select the winners of two races at Woodbine Mohawk Park and two races at the Meadowlands. The Can-Am Pick 4 will have a $0.20 minimum and low 15 per cent takeout.
Experts Weigh In On Can-Am Pick 4
Team Woodbine
Ken Middleton
Leg One: 1,2,3,4,6
Leg Two: 4,7,10
Leg Three: 1,6,7
Leg Four: 1,2,4
Cost: $27
Mark McKelvie
Leg One: 1,2,3,9
Leg Two: 4,7,10
Leg Three: 1,6,9
Leg Four: 1,4,5,6
Cost: $28.80
Jason Portuondo
Leg One: 1,2,5
Leg Two: 4,7,10
Leg Three: 1,5,6
Leg Four: 1,5
Cost: $10.80
Chad Rozema
Leg One: 1,2,8
Leg Two: 7,9,10
Leg Three: 1,6
Leg Four: 4,5,6
Cost: $10.80
Team ‘Big M’
Dave Brower
Leg One: 1,2,3,9
Leg Two: 1,4,5,7
Leg Three: 1,2,5,7
Leg Four: 2,5
Cost: $25.60
Dave Little
Leg One: 1.3.6.8
Leg Two: 5,7
Leg Three: 1,6,7,9
Leg Four: 1,2,4,6
Cost: $25.60
Bob ‘Hollywood’ Heyden
Leg One: 2,4,7
Leg Two: 2,4,9
Leg Three: 4,7,8
Leg Four: 1,6,9
Cost: $20.20
Ken Warkentin
Leg One: 2,3,4,8
Leg Two: 4,7,10
Leg Three: 1,2,3,6
Leg Four: 2,4,6
Cost: $28.80
Jessica Otten
Leg One: 2,3,6,10
Leg Two: 1,4,7,10
Leg Three: 1,6,7
Leg Four: 1,4,6
Cost: $28.80
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03-21-2019, 05:27 PM
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Muddy
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mi.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy
The Can-Am Pick 4 sequence is as follows:
Leg One: Woodbine Mohawk Park – Race 10 (Post Time: 10:40 p.m.)
Leg Two: The Meadowlands – Race 10 (Post Time: 10:52 p.m.)
Leg Three: Woodbine Mohawk Park – Race 11 (Post Time: 11:04 p.m.)
Leg Four: The Meadowlands – Race 11 (Post Time: 11:16 p.m.)
The Can-Am Pick 4 requires horseplayers to select the winners of two races at Woodbine Mohawk Park and two races at the Meadowlands. The Can-Am Pick 4 will have a $0.20 minimum and low 15 per cent takeout.
Experts Weigh In On Can-Am Pick 4
Team Woodbine
Ken Middleton
Leg One: 1,2,3,4,6
Leg Two: 4,7,10
Leg Three: 1,6,7
Leg Four: 1,2,4
Cost: $27
Mark McKelvie
Leg One: 1,2,3,9
Leg Two: 4,7,10
Leg Three: 1,6,9
Leg Four: 1,4,5,6
Cost: $28.80
Jason Portuondo
Leg One: 1,2,5
Leg Two: 4,7,10
Leg Three: 1,5,6
Leg Four: 1,5
Cost: $10.80
Chad Rozema
Leg One: 1,2,8
Leg Two: 7,9,10
Leg Three: 1,6
Leg Four: 4,5,6
Cost: $10.80
Team ‘Big M’
Dave Brower
Leg One: 1,2,3,9
Leg Two: 1,4,5,7
Leg Three: 1,2,5,7
Leg Four: 2,5
Cost: $25.60
Dave Little
Leg One: 1.3.6.8
Leg Two: 5,7
Leg Three: 1,6,7,9
Leg Four: 1,2,4,6
Cost: $25.60
Bob ‘Hollywood’ Heyden
Leg One: 2,4,7
Leg Two: 2,4,9
Leg Three: 4,7,8
Leg Four: 1,6,9
Cost: $20.20
Ken Warkentin
Leg One: 2,3,4,8
Leg Two: 4,7,10
Leg Three: 1,2,3,6
Leg Four: 2,4,6
Cost: $28.80
Jessica Otten
Leg One: 2,3,6,10
Leg Two: 1,4,7,10
Leg Three: 1,6,7
Leg Four: 1,4,6
Cost: $28.80
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Muddy
Leg One: (5)2
Leg Two: 679104
Leg Three: (1)29
Leg Four: (6)192
Cost: 24.00
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03-21-2019, 07:02 PM
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Apple 2GS Wiz
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Clarion, Pa
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I'm playing, Good Luck All
WBSB 10 . . .Manhattan Again-10/1 . . .9,6,2
M . .10 . . .You Should Be Here-4/1 . . .7,6,10
WBSB 11 . . .Big Lis-5/1 . . . . . .7,5,1
M . .11 . . .Perseverance-9/2 . . .4,9,1
Cost $16.20
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03-22-2019, 12:59 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Markham, Ontario
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Can-Am Pick4
Leg 1 Mohawk R10
Leg 2 Meadowlands R10
Leg 3 Mohawk R11
Leg 4 Meadowlands R11
Pick4 $0.20 Pick-4: 2,4 / 1,4,5 / 4,5,10 / 4,6,8 Bets: 54 Total: $10.80
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03-22-2019, 09:41 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
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@20c base this bet will have mostly chalky payouts. I guess you could play it for 60c? I wont play it i will just stick with the PK4 bet at Meadowlands.
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03-22-2019, 10:26 AM
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Location: Philadelphia area
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1,2,5,6,8 / 5,7 / 1,5,6,7 / 1,6,7- $24
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03-22-2019, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camluck49
@20c base this bet will have mostly chalky payouts. I guess you could play it for 60c? I wont play it i will just stick with the PK4 bet at Meadowlands.
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Payouts will be chalky if the results are chalky..wdb/mhk pick fours pay well if you can get a couple decent scores across the line first.
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03-22-2019, 10:42 AM
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Apple 2GS Wiz
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Program scheduled times
10:10 PM WBSB R10 Leg1
10:15 PM BigM R10 Leg2
Can I bet it at Mohawk if Leg 2 is official?...... 
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03-22-2019, 10:45 AM
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Muddy
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mi.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camluck49
@20c base this bet will have mostly chalky payouts. I guess you could play it for 60c? I wont play it i will just stick with the PK4 bet at Meadowlands.
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Woodbine always has .20 base. There are some huge payouts for .20 base there. This shouldn't be any different.
Heres a few from the last 7-8 days of racing. I would think the pools have to be bigger. 100 k?
$1 WIN FOUR (3-6-7-5) paid 2542.45, pool 78429
$1 WIN FOUR (5-5-5-1) paid 2007.90, pool 61136
$1 WIN FOUR (8-2-9-4) paid 1837.85, pool 65801
$1 WIN FOUR (2-2-5-6) paid 17118.05 pool 56192
$1 WIN FOUR (4-6-8-10) paid 1281.55, pool 61685
Last edited by Muddy; 03-22-2019 at 10:53 AM.
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03-22-2019, 12:32 PM
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Registered Wacko
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This bet, by the way it was designed, is destined to fail. There is absolutely NO REASON why in 2019 there should be two separate pools: one for the US, the other for Canada. Makes absolutely no sense.
https://www.xpressbet.com/component/...-debuts-friday
Fans should note that the Can-Am Pick-4 pool will be separate at both tracks, though the Meadowlands and Woodbine-Mohawk Park will share equally in the revenues.
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03-22-2019, 01:56 PM
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I used to bet the pk4 at woodbine/Mohawk. all it takes is a fav and a few top 3 horses. The pk4 will pay $30 or less for 20c. I actually seen it pay under $10 at times. The 25% TO on Pk4 bet and bad payouts chased me away. I would play the PK5 bet at Mohawk only.
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