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12-13-2022, 02:08 PM
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Thread for Sudden Unexplained Deaths
Thought I would start a thread for these deaths, of which there seems to be a lot lately, in an attempt to track them. Please post any updates as to the causes if/when discovered or other info related to the victims. Any discussion about vaccines can go in numerous other threads.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...cli-story.html
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12-13-2022, 02:12 PM
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I'll just reply to every one with the following:
I'm sure it had NOTHING to do with the COVID vaccines...25yo athletes die all the time from heart attacks...because they are too fit... 
BTW, when are regular people going to finally WAKE THE FUCK UP and start asking questions and demanding answers from our supposed HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS?
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12-13-2022, 03:42 PM
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What statistics are there for this kind of sudden death?
Are there really more happening now or are we just looking for them more often?
What science is there to support this hypothesis?
I would be curious to know.
Found this so far....
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/trans...aths2016to2021
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Last edited by Tom; 12-13-2022 at 03:50 PM.
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12-13-2022, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
What statistics are there for this kind of sudden death?
Are there really more happening now or are we just looking for them more often?
What science is there to support this hypothesis?
I would be curious to know.
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It's like everything else. The vaccines skeptics are searching for them and sometimes posting them on Twitter even when the guy clearly died of some other cause (almost like a psy op campaign to discredit the ones without an explanation). But at the same time, no one seems to be doing comprehensive autopsies that could uncover cases where heart damage was caused by the vaccine. They just try to spin it away as Covid heart damage or random.
We know the vaccines cause heart issues, especially in young men, that sometimes require medical treatment. I've been arguing from day one that just because you don't require immediate medical treatment that does not mean there wasn't some damage. IMO, this should be setting off all sorts of red flags that require closer examination, but the pro vaccine groups don't seem to be interested in the truth.
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12-13-2022, 03:55 PM
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28 year old woman at gym
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12-13-2022, 04:05 PM
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correlation NEVER HAS BEEN, nor EVER will be, cause and effect
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12-13-2022, 04:28 PM
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correlation NEVER HAS BEEN, nor EVER will be, cause and effect
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hey doc
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12-13-2022, 04:31 PM
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correlation NEVER HAS BEEN, nor EVER will be, cause and effect
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Not correlating anything with anything in this thread Dr. Toe Jam, simply tracking sudden unexplained deaths and looking for answers. There are many of these deaths in seemingly healthy people with no causes, no investigations. This seems unprecedented. If you have some numbers to share showing this is how things have always been, we would welcome them. Otherwise, it would be appreciated if you would keep your pearls of wisdom to yourself.
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12-13-2022, 04:36 PM
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correlation NEVER HAS BEEN, nor EVER will be, cause and effect
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Well, if sudden deaths were historically at 12/100,000 and then rose to 67/100,000 in 2021 and 89/100,000, then it is no longer random variationand there is an assignable cause for the increase.
If the rate remained the same, there is not a lot to indicate anything new is causing the deaths.
You did take a science course at some point, didn't you?
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12-13-2022, 04:37 PM
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Like looking at ONLY short red haired men who had heart attacks and claiming there was cause and effect by being a readhead.
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12-13-2022, 04:45 PM
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Without AUTOPSY evidence this is still correlation only
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12-13-2022, 04:49 PM
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Quote:
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Without AUTOPSY evidence this is still correlation only
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Correlation to what?
What is wrong with you?
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12-13-2022, 05:08 PM
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Without AUTOPSY evidence this is still correlation only
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Absence of evidence does not mean absence of existence...they just aren't intent on collecting said evidence...however, the tides seem to be turning a bit and many doctors won't be AS AFRAID to come forward as they have been.
That's a helluva way to run medicine, don't you agree, DOCTOR?
Scaring doctors into SILENCE.
What a wonderful world YOU'VE created for us all...LOL
And they said the ORANGE MAN was evil. Heal THYSELF doctor. HEAL THYSELF
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12-13-2022, 05:31 PM
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Like looking at ONLY short red haired men who had heart attacks and claiming there was cause and effect by being a readhead.
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No, totally wrong. Looking at the data for a specific group, with a documented history, will tell that there is an assignable cause or just random variation. Those are the ONLY two possibillities.
If there is an assignable cause, THEN you look for what the cause is.
No wonder you got the whole covid thing wrong What'd you get in science.....D?
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60% of the murders in South Chicago go unsolved. 
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