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Old 11-23-2022, 03:05 PM   #16
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The criminal justice system is subject to mistake. The ultimate penalty deserves the ultimate review.

Besides, languishing in jail forever IMO is far worse. I used to be a staunch believer in the death penalty.

Life without parole is worse. I like worse.
But the ultimate crime deserves the ultimate penalty! And eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth. A life for a life!

Besides, since you're into "far worse" so much, you should favor capital punishment, because in most cases murderers will be sentenced to hell upon death and be sent their sooner rather than later, and therefore suffer for a longer duration. Just sayin'....
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Old 11-23-2022, 09:42 PM   #17
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The criminal justice system is subject to mistake. The ultimate penalty deserves the ultimate review.

Besides, languishing in jail forever IMO is far worse. I used to be a staunch believer in the death penalty.

Life without parole is worse. I like worse.
We are not talking about some case of circumstantial evidence... been plenty of cases of cut and dry murder.... where there is no doubt.

And as for Life without parole... to many bleedingheart Fetterman's in the world for that to hold. Plus the cost is beyond... swing 'em and give 15% of the saved cost of incarnation to victims. Win win.
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String them up at high noon the day after the trial, like in the Old West. I have a take that is pretty rare. Not many seem to care the danger to all that interact with someone with nothing to lose. Death row inmates have all day to plot how to maim staff. I have been to a good handful of closed prisons including touring death row, you would be shocked what people can make weapons out of, and how much time some of them took. You can dig a whole for a swimming pool with a spoon if you have enough time.


Whether the death penalty is a deterrent or not I do not care, no need to risk others and spend money to keep gutter trash alive.


Not sure I can top you on being evil in the eyes of the left, but I actually am disappointed when someone who fights police with lethal force gets wounded and their life is saved. I have watched video of perps of heinous crimes getting killed by police and laughed.
Good hemp rope is recyclable.... so beyond the cost savings it's saving the planet at the same time. Win.. win.
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Good hemp rope is recyclable.... so beyond the cost savings it's saving the planet at the same time. Win.. win.




You can also donate the body to science or harvest organs to save lives.
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Old 11-23-2022, 10:22 PM   #20
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It's common knowledge that today's prisons are run by the inmates and the gangs that they belong to. A criminal gets a life sentence, joins a gang in jail, and he is afforded protection against the other inmates. For all intents and purposes, the jailed criminal lives pretty much the same life in prison as he did when he was out...along with getting free rent, free food and plenty of leisure and exercise time. Is this adequate punishment for some of the heinous crimes that we see committed out there? Not in my book.

I am all for capital punishment, but not as it's applied right now. The death row inmates shouldn't be allowed to die of old age, as they are now. The executions should be as swift and as painful as possible...preferably at the hands of the family members of the victims. Handcuff the murderer and place him in a room, and let the family of the victim pay him a visit armed with baseball bats. And then have someone come in after a few minutes to take out the garbage and clean up the mess.
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It's common knowledge that today's prisons are run by the inmates and the gangs that they belong to. A criminal gets a life sentence, joins a gang in jail, and he is afforded protection against the other inmates. For all intents and purposes, the jailed criminal lives pretty much the same life in prison as he did when he was out...along with getting free rent, free food and plenty of leisure and exercise time. Is this adequate punishment for some of the heinous crimes that we see committed out there? Not in my book.

I am all for capital punishment, but not as it's applied right now. The death row inmates shouldn't be allowed to die of old age, as they are now. The executions should be as swift and as painful as possible...preferably at the hands of the family members of the victims. Handcuff the murderer and place him in a room, and let the family of the victim pay him a visit armed with baseball bats. And then have someone come in after a few minutes to take out the garbage and clean up the mess.



Damn and I thought I was extreme when it comes to wanting inhumane punishment for violent criminals.
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It's common knowledge that today's prisons are run by the inmates and the gangs that they belong to. A criminal gets a life sentence, joins a gang in jail, and he is afforded protection against the other inmates. For all intents and purposes, the jailed criminal lives pretty much the same life in prison as he did when he was out...along with getting free rent, free food and plenty of leisure and exercise time. Is this adequate punishment for some of the heinous crimes that we see committed out there? Not in my book.

I am all for capital punishment, but not as it's applied right now. The death row inmates shouldn't be allowed to die of old age, as they are now. The executions should be as swift and as painful as possible...preferably at the hands of the family members of the victims. Handcuff the murderer and place him in a room, and let the family of the victim pay him a visit armed with baseball bats. And then have someone come in after a few minutes to take out the garbage and clean up the mess.
Waiting 20 years on death row can be bad…..but takes any deterrent out of it
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Waiting 20 years on death row can be bad…..but takes any deterrent out of it
The death penalty has never been a deterrent, never will. Those who plan murder think little of the consequences.
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It's common knowledge that today's prisons are run by the inmates and the gangs that they belong to. A criminal gets a life sentence, joins a gang in jail, and he is afforded protection against the other inmates. For all intents and purposes, the jailed criminal lives pretty much the same life in prison as he did when he was out...along with getting free rent, free food and plenty of leisure and exercise time. Is this adequate punishment for some of the heinous crimes that we see committed out there? Not in my book.

I am all for capital punishment, but not as it's applied right now. The death row inmates shouldn't be allowed to die of old age, as they are now. The executions should be as swift and as painful as possible...preferably at the hands of the family members of the victims. Handcuff the murderer and place him in a room, and let the family of the victim pay him a visit armed with baseball bats. And then have someone come in after a few minutes to take out the garbage and clean up the mess.
Is that really you, Thask? Who said there is no such thing as the resurrection from the dead?

Long time no see. Hope all is well with you.
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Waiting 20 years on death row can be bad…..but takes any deterrent out of it

It doesn't need to be a deterrent, those people don't need to be allowed to take resources that others could use. They are still a danger to others even when locked up.


We also need to find a way to stream line the criminal trial system. The Christmas parade murderer's trial was a big waste of taxpayer dollars that could have went to a better cause. Their is no death penalty in Wisconsin so that wasn't the issue and he was obviously guilty. Darrel Brooks was out on a measly $1,000 bail for hitting his girlfriend with his car, another mass murderer that should have been in jail instead of killing people.


If anyone needed the Thaskalos recommended punishment it was him. He represented himself and kept demanding respect from the judge, he had that gang banger attitude.
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