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Old 03-11-2020, 06:51 PM   #316
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ANY trainer that has been hitting at very high win rate these days is most likely using an illegal substance...................because the playing field has been so un even ! That includes the big names like Baffert and Brown ! I know some are going to say i'm nuts , BUT to win at these rates competing against others who are using juice they must also be guilty ............ guys like Shug ,Mott , Mandella , and others only win around 15 percent............How many times do you see a Baffert horse passed and kick back and find a 2nd gear as if he or she is on juice ? happens a lot..............
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:03 PM   #317
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#28 was just arrested. Considering the Oakes/Surick connections and Dr.Grasso to the conspiracy, many more from the harness side are going to getting a knock on the door.
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Old 03-11-2020, 08:55 PM   #318
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#28 was just arrested. Considering the Oakes/Surick connections and Dr.Grasso to the conspiracy, many more from the harness side are going to getting a knock on the door.
All the Midwest harness trainers still to come. They may need a school bus to haul them off.
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Old 03-11-2020, 09:39 PM   #319
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all along i had thought that these trainers were using these drugs out of competition. obviously i was wrong. any way they used the ped's is wrong and to brag about killing horses is ultra wrong.
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Old 03-11-2020, 09:58 PM   #320
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But I think it's important to be accurate on the law here. Anyone is allowed to voice their opinions about leading trainers. It's not prohibited by defamation doctrines.
Well hell...I was certainly warned and chastised for just a vague insinuation about a certain high % trainer here....yet other's are allowed to bash trainers harshly with no previous infractions...here on this site......hhhhmmm....

i'm waiting for vindication before I write more....am thinking it might be coming....
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:18 PM   #321
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Well hell...I was certainly warned and chastised for just a vague insinuation about a certain high % trainer here....yet other's are allowed to bash trainers harshly with no previous infractions...here on this site......hhhhmmm....

i'm waiting for vindication before I write more....am thinking it might be coming....
PA can impose any rules he wants to impose here. But none of that has anything to do with defamation liability. In addition to the legal principles that protect TLG, PA is also protected by Section 230. He can't be sued for anything defamatory a commenter says.
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:19 PM   #322
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The top trainers (Bob Baffert) are general purpose public figures.


a limited purpose public figure, meaning any commentary about horse racing gets protection.

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Chad Brown is trashing John Pricci for writing this

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Kristian Rhein DVM, who allegedly said he* also has four-time Eclipse champion trainer Chad Brown as a client, might say, don’t worry about using SGF-1000 on Maximum Security, a substance with growth properties that allow a horse to perform beyond its natural ability because “they don’t even have a test for it.”


Chad should tone down the childish GiF’s imho
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:31 PM   #323
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This is false. He is not "a client" and has never been one.
Enjoyed your take of the matter on Byks show Andy. Just now got to hear it. Keep up the good work. You're a true ambassador for the sport.
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:56 PM   #324
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Enjoyed your take of the matter on Byks show Andy. Just now got to hear it. Keep up the good work. You're a true ambassador for the sport.
This sport is circling the drain. Things need to happen exactly at this moment or it isn't going to be around much longer.
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Old 03-12-2020, 12:27 AM   #325
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This sport is circling the drain. Things need to happen exactly at this moment or it isn't going to be around much longer.
Let us judge the comments from the Industry.


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Is it we are pissed at this? Nope.

How about, how our customers that took it in the shorts on this?

Nope.

You, and I, got legal bullshit on this. As Steve Miller says.

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Old 03-12-2020, 12:30 AM   #326
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Chad should tone down the childish GiF’s imho
Why? It's the thing to do...you've been gone a long time...maybe you didn't hear...
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Old 03-12-2020, 12:39 AM   #327
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The squeaky wheel? Yep, tone it down. At this moment it says "I am guilty".
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Old 03-12-2020, 01:08 AM   #328
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Mark Henig , looch are hashing out how best to run the Navaro & Servis horses next.

Seems tone deaf to me. Thats next weeks topic. Wtf.
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Let us judge the comments from the Industry.


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Is it we are pissed at this? Nope.

How about, how our customers that took it in the shorts on this?

Nope.

You, and I, got legal bullshit on this. As Steve Miller says.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MneA9pgLVw
Like your sense of humor. I can tell your a fellow Nebraskan. I'm no idiot (maybe). I'll wager my dollars in the stock market (with the higher end cheats) and leave this horse racing business to the low level cheats.
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Old 03-12-2020, 01:17 AM   #330
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Mark Henig , looch are hashing out how best to run the Navaro & Servis horses next.

Seems tone deaf to me. Thats next weeks topic. Wtf.
Did not here that.

http:///www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaRlPRxOqFs
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