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03-11-2020, 06:51 PM
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#316
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Posts: 386
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ANY trainer that has been hitting at very high win rate these days is most likely using an illegal substance...................because the playing field has been so un even ! That includes the big names like Baffert and Brown ! I know some are going to say i'm nuts , BUT to win at these rates competing against others who are using juice they must also be guilty ............ guys like Shug ,Mott , Mandella , and others only win around 15 percent............How many times do you see a Baffert horse passed and kick back and find a 2nd gear as if he or she is on juice ? happens a lot..............
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03-11-2020, 07:03 PM
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#317
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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#28 was just arrested. Considering the Oakes/Surick connections and Dr.Grasso to the conspiracy, many more from the harness side are going to getting a knock on the door.
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03-11-2020, 08:55 PM
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#318
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,069
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irishfever
#28 was just arrested. Considering the Oakes/Surick connections and Dr.Grasso to the conspiracy, many more from the harness side are going to getting a knock on the door.
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All the Midwest harness trainers still to come. They may need a school bus to haul them off.
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03-11-2020, 09:39 PM
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#319
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Boston+Ocala
Posts: 23,739
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all along i had thought that these trainers were using these drugs out of competition. obviously i was wrong. any way they used the ped's is wrong and to brag about killing horses is ultra wrong.
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03-11-2020, 09:58 PM
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#320
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: central fla.
Posts: 4,874
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
But I think it's important to be accurate on the law here. Anyone is allowed to voice their opinions about leading trainers. It's not prohibited by defamation doctrines.
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Well hell...I was certainly warned and chastised for just a vague insinuation about a certain high % trainer here....yet other's are allowed to bash trainers harshly with no previous infractions...here on this site......hhhhmmm....
i'm waiting for vindication before I write more....am thinking it might be coming....
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got handed a lemon...make lemonade....add sugar or brown sugar or stevia or my personal favorite....miracle fruit....google it...thank me later...
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03-11-2020, 11:18 PM
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#321
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 8,798
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sammy the sage
Well hell...I was certainly warned and chastised for just a vague insinuation about a certain high % trainer here....yet other's are allowed to bash trainers harshly with no previous infractions...here on this site......hhhhmmm....
i'm waiting for vindication before I write more....am thinking it might be coming....
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PA can impose any rules he wants to impose here. But none of that has anything to do with defamation liability. In addition to the legal principles that protect TLG, PA is also protected by Section 230. He can't be sued for anything defamatory a commenter says.
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03-11-2020, 11:19 PM
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#322
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Beat up 💪
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Beach life in Fort Lauderdale
Posts: 11,938
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
The top trainers (Bob Baffert) are general purpose public figures.
a limited purpose public figure, meaning any commentary about horse racing gets protection.
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Chad Brown is trashing John Pricci for writing this
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Kristian Rhein DVM, who allegedly said he* also has four-time Eclipse champion trainer Chad Brown as a client, might say, don’t worry about using SGF-1000 on Maximum Security, a substance with growth properties that allow a horse to perform beyond its natural ability because “they don’t even have a test for it.”
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Chad should tone down the childish GiF’s imho
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03-11-2020, 11:31 PM
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#323
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 316
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Originally Posted by the little guy
This is false. He is not "a client" and has never been one.
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Enjoyed your take of the matter on Byks show Andy. Just now got to hear it. Keep up the good work. You're a true ambassador for the sport.
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03-11-2020, 11:56 PM
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#324
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 217
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Originally Posted by jahura2
Enjoyed your take of the matter on Byks show Andy. Just now got to hear it. Keep up the good work. You're a true ambassador for the sport.
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This sport is circling the drain. Things need to happen exactly at this moment or it isn't going to be around much longer.
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03-12-2020, 12:27 AM
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#325
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 15,118
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Originally Posted by PaceMasterT
This sport is circling the drain. Things need to happen exactly at this moment or it isn't going to be around much longer.
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Let us judge the comments from the Industry.
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Is it we are pissed at this? Nope.
How about, how our customers that took it in the shorts on this?
Nope.
You, and I, got legal bullshit on this. As Steve Miller says.
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03-12-2020, 12:30 AM
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#326
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,540
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Originally Posted by Suff
Chad should tone down the childish GiF’s imho
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Why? It's the thing to do...you've been gone a long time...maybe you didn't hear...
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03-12-2020, 12:39 AM
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#327
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 15,118
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The squeaky wheel? Yep, tone it down. At this moment it says "I am guilty".
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03-12-2020, 01:08 AM
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#328
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Beat up 💪
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Beach life in Fort Lauderdale
Posts: 11,938
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Mark Henig , looch are hashing out how best to run the Navaro & Servis horses next.
Seems tone deaf to me. Thats next weeks topic. Wtf.
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03-12-2020, 01:10 AM
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#329
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 217
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Originally Posted by jay68802
Let us judge the comments from the Industry.
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Is it we are pissed at this? Nope.
How about, how our customers that took it in the shorts on this?
Nope.
You, and I, got legal bullshit on this. As Steve Miller says.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MneA9pgLVw
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Like your sense of humor. I can tell your a fellow Nebraskan. I'm no idiot (maybe). I'll wager my dollars in the stock market (with the higher end cheats) and leave this horse racing business to the low level cheats.
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03-12-2020, 01:17 AM
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#330
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 15,118
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Suff
Mark Henig , looch are hashing out how best to run the Navaro & Servis horses next.
Seems tone deaf to me. Thats next weeks topic. Wtf.
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Did not here that.
http:///www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaRlPRxOqFs
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