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02-03-2018, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
National security does not trump individual Constitutional rights in peace time without a state of emergency.
An American Citizen, whether he is likable or not, is entitled to Constitutional rights.
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You are wrong this is why FISA courts exist.
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02-03-2018, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
do you realize how far away from an independent you are? You make Mostie blush at times.
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I'm not I'm a fiscal conservative.
Great comeback though.
So we shouldn't spy on suspected counter intelligence agents? Or people the Russians might have turned?
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02-03-2018, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Just like IRAN, who we gave nukes to, right?
What we DO know is that RUSSIA is a great friend to both 0bama and Hillary.
Open your other eye - you are missing half the world.
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And more deflections..
If Russia is such a great friend of Hillary why we're you touting Putin just a couple of months ago.
You're as fairweather as they come. As long as it fits the narrative it's useful when it doesn't it's garbage.
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02-03-2018, 08:28 PM
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#409
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
You are wrong this is why FISA courts exist.
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The FISA court does not take away Constitutional rights, it certainly can be abused as it was in this instance.
You seem to be making an argument we need a national secret police force, like the KGB, to have national security.
We will see how wrong I am, when charges are dropped due to the fruit of the poisonous tree.
Carter Page's lawyers are gleeful.
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02-03-2018, 08:59 PM
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#410
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
And more deflections..
If Russia is such a great friend of Hillary why we're you touting Putin just a couple of months ago.
You're as fairweather as they come. As long as it fits the narrative it's useful when it doesn't it's garbage.
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You really need to try to keep up.
You obviously do not have a clue what is going on day to day.
Hint - look up sarcasm in your Funk & Wagnel's.
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02-06-2018, 03:32 PM
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Are you trying to impress someone, if so you are failing bigly.
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02-06-2018, 04:47 PM
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I was just watching a show on AHC last night, about Hitler's rise.
They had a segment in it about how, during the invasions and atrocities, the NYT did a sit down interview with him, painting him in a good light, showing him and his dogs......real puff piece about him.
Good ole NYTImes - antin-american from the git go.
Nice source, Dan. Real nice.
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02-06-2018, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I was just watching a show on AHC last night, about Hitler's rise.
They had a segment in it about how, during the invasions and atrocities, the NYT did a sit down interview with him, painting him in a good light, showing him and his dogs......real puff piece about him.
Good ole NYTImes - antin-american from the git go.
Nice source, Dan. Real nice.
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How about Rumsfeld embracing Saddam Hussein in the early 1980s?
I guess it turns out that you're the only one who can see perfectly into the future.
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02-06-2018, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Good ole NYTImes - antin-american from the git go.
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Tom <-- 2017 Russia is our enemy. Russia must be destroyed. GOD DAMN Russia.
Tom 2017 --> Russia is our friend. Russia is great. THANK GOD for Russia.
Lectures about anti-americanism from Tom:
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02-06-2018, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
How about Rumsfeld embracing Saddam Hussein in the early 1980s?
I guess it turns out that you're the only one who can see perfectly into the future.
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Future?
Hitler was well known at the time for his conquering of Europe.
to all but the liberal NYTimes.
SH was a known murdering POS in the 1970s.
No surprises here. Just another moron playing games with dictators.
Rumsfeld is and has been a jerk for decades.
I was calling him out long before our troops hit Baghdad.
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02-06-2018, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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See, this is why you are fun to play with.
To GD dumb to know sarcasm when I post it.
I can post any shit I want and land you in the boat.
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02-06-2018, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
See, this is why you are fun to play with.
To GD dumb to know sarcasm when I post it.
I can post any shit I want and land you in the boat.
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Russia
Putin
Assange
Snowden
A couple flips that come to mind... a few of those you've even wanted exterminated in the past.
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02-07-2018, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I can post any shit I want and land you in the boat.
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Your boat sank from shit overload a lonnng time ago
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02-07-2018, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Russia
Putin
Assange
Snowden
A couple flips that come to mind... a few of those you've even wanted exterminated in the past.
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No flip on Putin.
When you look at Putin, he is a dictator, a murderer, but when you put him next to a democrat, you can see his good points.
The others, is it your opinion that people never change their minds when new information or circumstances come to light?
A mind is not set in concrete, unless it is a liberal mind.
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