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05-03-2018, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by minethatbird08
I agree with Mississippi jumping off the page. Unfortunately in my experience these types always get bet way down. You think you find a gem but everybody else sees the same thing. Hopefully, I’m wrong.
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I agree; 5 or 6-1
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05-03-2018, 06:29 PM
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#17
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I remember Masochistic being a lock a year or so ago when his jockey was busted for not riding and he somehow made the KD undercard with Espinoza up. I think he was 2-1 but it was a total steal, he won by 14 .
I'm not aware of any shenanigans like that this year.
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05-03-2018, 07:57 PM
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#18
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Imperial Hint
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05-03-2018, 08:56 PM
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#19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
Lets jinx some horses on the undercard.
Ill go first. Race 9 River Boyne can't lose. Will be a single for me in pick 3 and pick 4.
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Originally Posted by jahura2
Love this idea Paynter. Let me call Rushing Fall a lock in the 9th as well , then maybe we might have a chance to beat both of them.
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I kinda love Untamed Domain. 1-1/16th is pretty short for him though.... I guess this would be more of a tightener for him for the 1.2 million, 1-1/4 mile Belmont Derby on July 7, since he's been off for a while. Love this guy's breeding.
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05-04-2018, 02:31 AM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Maybe not a lock, but a 'Key' horse.
R11 Turf Classic
Channel Maker
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05-04-2018, 08:31 AM
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#21
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$2 Showbettor
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: The Villages
Posts: 2,578
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
hopefully the undercard payouts are like 2016 last year was pretty much all chalk.
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Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your statement but last year the payouts were pretty good. L year, from races 6 to 11, only two favorites won and a couple winners were over 10-1:
Race 6 – 2017 HUMANA DISTAFF STAKES: Paulassilverlining 5-2 (3rd of 7)
Race 7 - 2017 CHURCHILL DISTAFF TURF MILE STAKES : Roca Rojo 6-5 (fav of 8)
Race 8 - 2017 PAT DAY MILE STAKES: Wild Shot 8-1 (4th of 13)
Race 9 - 2017 AMERICAN TURF STAKES: Arklow 15-1 (8th of 11)
Race 10 - 2017 CHURCHILL DOWNS STAKES: Limousine Liberal 13-1 (6th of 14)
Race 11 - 2017 Woodford Reserve Turf Classic: Divisidero 7-2 (fav of 11)
$0.50 Pick 3(races 10,11 & 12) – $207.50
$0.50 Pick 4(races 9, 10,11 & 12) – $3,441.40
$0.50 Pick 5 (races 8, 9, 10,11 & 12) – $50,063.35
$2 Pick 6 (races 7 thru 12) (5 of 6) – $1,815.80
$2 Pick 6 (6 of 6) – $875,335.40
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05-04-2018, 09:12 AM
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#22
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$2 Showbettor
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: The Villages
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
Lets jinx some horses on the undercard.
Ill go first. Race 9 River Boyne can't lose. Will be a single for me in pick 3 and pick 4.
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That's a bold prediction there, considering Chad Brown's undefeated filly, Rushing Fall, with JJ aboard, will be flying late. Good luck.
My single in the sequence will be Imperial Hint in Race 8.
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05-04-2018, 08:24 PM
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The fields are so deep it's hard to talk about locks but I, like the above guys, will have a couple pick 6 tickets with Imperiant Hint singled.
I'm fairly heavily weighted on River Boyne too, and it's funny I handicapped Untamed Domain second on first pass, then going back I was smacked in the face by Rushing Fall too. I began to add him back into tickets. National Flag did stand out to me too, was sorta surprised about how little handicappers have talked about him; the ML apparently knows he's got talent.
My top choices are w w w w w
Of course, these are the most weighted, obviously the key to winning huge tickets like this is to have constructed a few outs with your singles. The Derby angle for a multi-race wager is super interesting, it is really hard to come down on 1 or 2 for such a weird race, but if you do feel strongly about Justify for example, even if he goes off as the favorite you still are cashing a big ticket in which many other people were spreading huge on these deep fields.
Good luck everyone.
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05-04-2018, 08:31 PM
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#24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f2tornado
The rail was red hot Wednesday, winning 6 of 10 races on the card. Today's card started off with another rail win. Crazy.
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rail very good
there are some decent paces early so should have a good idea
I will be looking at the 5th race closely, that race has to fall apart. I know McCraken will be a well backed horse due to the setup but his trainer is awful with these layoffs and at 5/2 I just cannot take him. He can win though.
I like Dazzling Gem with a bit of Behavioral Bias.
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05-05-2018, 08:42 AM
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Remember, all pick3s , pick4s & pick5s today are $0.50 minimum. The pick6 is still $2, but besides that, I can play all the rolling pick3s plus the pick4 & pick5 for around $50.
For the individual races I like to pound the exacta, which costs a lot more.
Good luck!
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05-05-2018, 09:23 AM
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Remember, all pick3s , pick4s & pick5s today are $0.50 minimum. The pick6 is still $2, but besides that, I can play all the rolling pick3s plus the pick4 & pick5 for around $50.
For the individual races I like to pound the exacta, which costs a lot more.
Good luck!
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FYI...the 12 rushing fall...in the 9th race...ran Fri. and finished 2nd...jtyltk
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05-05-2018, 09:31 AM
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#27
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Race 7 #6
Race 9 #10
Race 11 #9
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05-05-2018, 09:37 AM
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Race 8 Outplay
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