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Just another Facist
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I have a friend who bought a Challenger Hellcat for his wife. Traded it in a year. She hated it. He traded it on a Mini Cooper for her. He said it scared her and only got 10 miles a gall0n
The all new (it’s not all new, or even close) Tundra has gone to turbo v6’s only. No more v8 IMAX. It appears they did it to obtain 3 miles a gallon extra on the epa numbers.
I normally upgrade my Tundra every 2-3 years. Not anymore.
I’ll keep my V8 unless this v6 is an incredible deal. I will drive one, mostly to see the new electronics package. But I give it a less than 20% chance I will upgrade. I have the top of the line 1794 as a 2020 model. It’s as solid as can be
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01-01-2022, 09:18 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Hemi V8.....I thought it was a thread about a new variant strain.
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01-01-2022, 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph
I have a friend who bought a Challenger Hellcat for his wife. Traded it in a year. She hated it. He traded it on a Mini Cooper for her. He said it scared her and only got 10 miles a gall0n
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I looked that car up, I think 10 MPG city is pretty good and that highway mileage very impressive if it gets about 75% of the listed 22 MPG.
I am amazed at modern engine and transmission technology. If you dialed back the clock 40 some odd years to get that kind of horsepower even with a manual 4 speed transmission, and somewhat tall rear gears you would be looking at 2.5 mpg city and 4.5 mpg highway.
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01-01-2022, 11:04 AM
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Location: Wisconsin
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strained
QUOTE=Tom;2777182]Hemi V8.....I thought it was a thread about a new variant strain.[/QUOTE]
Could be - it fits
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01-01-2022, 08:26 PM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Automakers see where the entire industry is going: ELECTRIC or hybird and are moving that way RAPIDLY
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01-01-2022, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Automakers see where the entire industry is going: ELECTRIC or hybird and are moving that way RAPIDLY
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if only they had the minerals to make the batteries, but keep the federal subsidies coming anyway 
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01-01-2022, 10:32 PM
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if only they had the minerals to make the batteries, but keep the federal subsidies coming anyway |
Bingo! Liberals seem to ignore that Elon Musk and Tesla are propped up by the government with all kinds of "green" energy credits.
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01-02-2022, 02:14 AM
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Bigger does not mean better. The most technically advanced, fastest engine is the F1 V6.
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01-02-2022, 03:18 AM
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PA Steward
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Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Bigger does not mean better. The most technically advanced, fastest engine is the F1 V6.
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Who said anything about speed?
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01-02-2022, 07:08 AM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Automakers see where the entire industry is going: ELECTRIC or hybird and are moving that way RAPIDLY
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If you can find the recent Fox show from the LA auto show, check it out. These electrics are finally getting there. There are pieces from the show on YouTube.
Fisker and a few others are getting the prices down.
There are some very nice looking cars out there, coming for 2022.
Toyota is coming out with a Corolla SUV and the Ford Maverick P-up are very interesting to me. But these new electrics are very intriguing
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01-02-2022, 08:04 AM
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crusty old guy
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Bigger does not mean better. The most technically advanced, fastest engine is the F1 V6.
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And if the F1 rules allowed for a V8 then THAT would be the most advanced, fastest engine. But the V8 is about the sound. There's nothing quite like it. The V6 engines or those Fast and Flatulent 4 cylinders on the road really cannot compare. Hell, even the Viper V10s sounded like crap in comparison to a 70s V8 muscle car.
For your listening pleasure...
And as far as F1, I prefer the noises of the V10. F1 engine sounds
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01-02-2022, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Bigger does not mean better. The most technically advanced, fastest engine is the F1 V6.
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What a stupid comment. If you put that 1.6 liter F1 engine in a 4,000+ pound car it would be slower than the 6.2 liter Hemi. I suppose you are ignoring the fact the F1 car is lighter than the smallest street car. That Challenger is a 4400 pound beast.
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01-02-2022, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
But these new electrics are very intriguing
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1. The battery pack costs more than the rest of the car. When it goes, Good Luck.
2. The Power grid won't handle millions of EVs plugged in.
3. The Chinese have 80 + % of the rare earth mineral rights for batteries spoken for.
4. In cold weather their range diminishes. Ditto hot weather when the air conditioning is on.
5. Recharging takes time. If there are cars ahead of you, prepare to wait a good while.
5. Hydrogen may be a better option, someday.
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01-02-2022, 02:55 PM
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Just another Facist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyfox
1. The battery pack costs more than the rest of the car. When it goes, Good Luck.
2. The Power grid won't handle millions of EVs plugged in.
3. The Chinese have 80 + % of the rare earth mineral rights for batteries spoken for.
4. In cold weather their range diminishes. Ditto hot weather when the air conditioning is on.
5. Recharging takes time. If there are cars ahead of you, prepare to wait a good while.
5. Hydrogen may be a better option, someday.
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I don’t disagree. But let me correct you on a few things.
1. The new batteries are 25% of the car cost on many of the newer cars. GM recently made a pledge that you will never pay more than 25% of the purchase price for a replacement battery.
2. Agree
3. Agree
4. 20 and 30 min charges from 0-80% are now real on the newer models.
5. Hydrogen has been ruled out by almost every car company. But there are some huge fleets using it.
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