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08-07-2012, 09:08 PM
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Journeyman
Join Date: Apr 2012
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CHEATERS PROSPER @CALDER
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08-07-2012, 09:14 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Above all else, and it isn't close, this kind of stuff will kill the sport.
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08-07-2012, 09:26 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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I will add the person that wrote the article doesn't know much about racing. I can't imagine that the purses weren't redistributed after those positives.
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08-07-2012, 09:43 PM
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Vancouver Island
Join Date: Dec 2010
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The way to go in todays game accept it and figure when they are going to inject the horse. It is not that hard to see in the past performances.
Mac 
Last edited by bob60566; 08-07-2012 at 09:52 PM.
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08-07-2012, 09:56 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Originally Posted by bob60566
The way to go in todays game accept it and figure when they are going to inject the horse. It is not that hard to see in the past performances.
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That is a game only an idiot would want to play.
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08-07-2012, 09:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Off the Turnpike
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It's amazing how Frankie C. seeks out these noble horsemen who "treat their horses like King James". Friend of the lowly equine....that's him.
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08-07-2012, 10:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,569
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Politics, religion and horse racing.
The only businesses where crooks are not led away in handcuffs.
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08-07-2012, 10:08 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Anaheim,California
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Yellow journalism or a scathing expose? If true, this is quite a bombshell. Perhaps this is part of the reason have never done well at Calder. Shunning it altogether from now on could be prudent. What is disturbing is if these things have been commonplace at Calder most surely similar things have been going on at other venues, but which ones??
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08-07-2012, 10:12 PM
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Vancouver Island
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Originally Posted by cj
That is a game only an idiot would want to play.
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Can you explain the above statement in todays enviroment and the state of horse racing.
I have to accept that they are giving there horses what ever and today in the PP it is very obvious in the last ten running line in the horse at lesser tracks.
In todays age this is what racing has come to at minor tracks and maybe Dutrow at major.
Mac
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08-07-2012, 10:20 PM
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Vancouver Island
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Politics, religion and horse racing.
The only businesses where crooks are not led away in handcuffs.
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Maybe those three are right but not in order,
Not going there
Mac 
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08-07-2012, 10:43 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Originally Posted by bob60566
Can you explain the above statement in todays enviroment and the state of horse racing.
I have to accept that they are giving there horses what ever and today in the PP it is very obvious in the last ten running line in the horse at lesser tracks.
In todays age this is what racing has come to at minor tracks and maybe Dutrow at major.
Mac |
There isn't much to explain. If betting the sport is reduced to guessing when a trainer will or won't inject illegal drugs, why would anyone play that wasn't in on it. You know the old saying about the sucker at the card table, right?
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08-07-2012, 10:54 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
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This is a little scary and the article doesn't say what happened.
"I hope I am not placed in danger and that my name is not revealed," the informant wrote, adding that Ziadie often killed barn pigeons with a shotgun. "[If] he finds out... he is crazy and capable of killing me or paying someone else to do it for him."
2 paragraphs later
state regulators closed their case against Ziadie a few months later when the informant abruptly disappeared.
Overall this is just ridiculous and I guess all we can do as horse players is not play there or tracks like it(Delaware,etc...)
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08-08-2012, 01:00 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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All I can say is, good thing this is Calder and not NYRA...or else I'd have to fork up $$$ for another server... 
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08-08-2012, 01:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
All I can say is, good thing this is Calder and not NYRA...or else I'd have to fork up $$$ for another server... |
The question is...isn't it naive to believe that this is restricted to Calder?
Calder is "major league" compared to some of the other tracks out there...
With the "integrity" that some racetracks exemplify...this kind of thing could be widespread...and we'd never know it.
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08-08-2012, 02:09 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Kentucky
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In every business there are crooked people. Carpenters, lawyers, doctors, bankers, etc...etc..
Yes, horse racing has some too but that is not the majority just like the other careers. How about steriods in athletes?
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