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07-22-2018, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LDH
When you become 'cogent', let us all know. Then we can chat.
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New appropriate Cogent definition:
It is useless discussing anything with Trumpeteer cultists.
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07-22-2018, 12:29 PM
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#77
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by hcap
As I said
BTW, irrelevant videos are meaningless except to those with no cogent arguments left to make.
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Ow!
I just hit my head on some low hanging fruit!
I guess that applies to memes and tweets from unknown people too?
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07-22-2018, 12:30 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by hcap
New appropriate Cogent definition:
It is useless discussing anything with Trumpeteer cultists.
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The leader of the Trumpeteer Cultists is MUELLER!
Speaking of targeted advertising......isn't that redundant?
And is it true that 35% of Facebook using democrats are now members of the Dollar Shave Club?
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07-22-2018, 01:17 PM
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#79
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by hcap
New appropriate Cogent definition:
It is useless discussing anything with Trumpeteer cultists.
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Discuss? Your mind was made up long ago, as were the Trumpeteer cultists. So what exactly is your point?
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07-22-2018, 02:01 PM
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#80
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Discuss? Your mind was made up long ago, as were the Trumpeteer cultists. So what exactly is your point?
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You saw the dims version of discussion in the Whoopi video.
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07-22-2018, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
You really believe this BS?
Russia invaded our social networking and put roughly 1 million ads out there for people to see.
Hillary spent twice as much as Trump in the 2016 election, while also having every single major network parading her as the 95% likely winner.
In short, you are basically calling out the supposed "smart voters" (as opposed to redneck hillbillies that voted for Trump) as being susceptible to subliminal messages via social media as the reason why Hilllary lost?
Keep in mind. The under 30 age group gave 36% of their vote towards Trump. Thus, the old and very knowledgeable elders of the supposed switched group would be the ones you are hanging your hat on with this conspiracy theory. Also, NY, CA, and IL all had Hillary.
So, in short, you don't like the middle of America that hated her. And for very good reasons because she is a lifetime political nut that has never done anything for anybody but herself. Then again, I'm just a deplorable, so WTF do I know?
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You seem to have not understood the issue.
It is being investigated by the authorities in USA and UK. It is nothing to do with any theory I have - I don't give a damn about any political party. I do not give a damn about any particular part of USA.
It is Cambridge Analytica (a UK company raided by the UK authorities that has now ceased trading) that was employed by the Trump campaign and misused Facebook "Likes" data of 40M people plus their Friends. Facebook have already faced a record fine for that in UK. Backer, Arron Banks a UK businessman, funded by the Russians, who has confirmed that psychological profiling of targeted ads to voters won the Brexit Referendum and the US General Election. Banks and Farage have been pictured with Trump at Trump tower celebrating their dual successes. Senior staff whistle blowers have reconfirmed the voter rigging methodology.
It is absolutely nothing to do with smart or sophisticated voters or young or old voters. They do not bother with partisans. They bother with those who don't usually vote or those who are undecided. The people that pollsters find so difficult to predict with. The targeted adds are designed specifically for specific types of people and are not attributable. They do act on emotions rather than logic. That stirs up people to vote and vote the right way. They discuss the issues with their friends who have also been targeted and they find surprise, surprise they are all of the same mind which further reinforces the message.
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07-22-2018, 07:45 PM
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#82
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07-22-2018, 07:54 PM
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Veteran
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Location: Lincoln, NE
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Originally Posted by Native Texan III
You seem to have not understood the issue.
It is being investigated by the authorities in USA and UK. It is nothing to do with any theory I have - I don't give a damn about any political party. I do not give a damn about any particular part of USA.
It is Cambridge Analytica (a UK company raided by the UK authorities that has now ceased trading) that was employed by the Trump campaign and misused Facebook "Likes" data of 40M people plus their Friends. Facebook have already faced a record fine for that in UK. Backer, Arron Banks a UK businessman, funded by the Russians, who has confirmed that psychological profiling of targeted ads to voters won the Brexit Referendum and the US General Election. Banks and Farage have been pictured with Trump at Trump tower celebrating their dual successes. Senior staff whistle blowers have reconfirmed the voter rigging methodology.
It is absolutely nothing to do with smart or sophisticated voters or young or old voters. They do not bother with partisans. They bother with those who don't usually vote or those who are undecided. The people that pollsters find so difficult to predict with. The targeted adds are designed specifically for specific types of people and are not attributable. They do act on emotions rather than logic. That stirs up people to vote and vote the right way. They discuss the issues with their friends who have also been targeted and they find surprise, surprise they are all of the same mind which further reinforces the message.
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In short. Batshit crazy people. If you even believe what you just typed.
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07-22-2018, 08:07 PM
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Just Deplorable
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Location: Lebanon, Ohio
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
In short. Batshit crazy people. If you even believe what you just typed.
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In Facebook terms:
That would be multiple "likes."
I defy anyone to identify even one person who voted as a result of watching Facebook every day and being swayed by those cheesy stupid facebook "ads."
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07-22-2018, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rastajenk
In Facebook terms:
That would be multiple "likes."
I defy anyone to identify even one person who voted as a result of watching Facebook every day and being swayed by those cheesy stupid facebook "ads."
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Under 30 people gave 36% voting for Trump.
People over 60 gave 38% voting for Trump.
The Dem message is that the stupid and undecuated masses voted for Trump.
I'm on board. Let the Shit party keep alienating themselves from the working class of people that make this country work.
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07-22-2018, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Native Texan III
You seem to have not understood the issue.
It is being investigated by the authorities in USA and UK. It is nothing to do with any theory I have - I don't give a damn about any political party. I do not give a damn about any particular part of USA.
It is Cambridge Analytica (a UK company raided by the UK authorities that has now ceased trading) that was employed by the Trump campaign and misused Facebook "Likes" data of 40M people plus their Friends. Facebook have already faced a record fine for that in UK. Backer, Arron Banks a UK businessman, funded by the Russians, who has confirmed that psychological profiling of targeted ads to voters won the Brexit Referendum and the US General Election. Banks and Farage have been pictured with Trump at Trump tower celebrating their dual successes. Senior staff whistle blowers have reconfirmed the voter rigging methodology.
It is absolutely nothing to do with smart or sophisticated voters or young or old voters. They do not bother with partisans. They bother with those who don't usually vote or those who are undecided. The people that pollsters find so difficult to predict with. The targeted adds are designed specifically for specific types of people and are not attributable. They do act on emotions rather than logic. That stirs up people to vote and vote the right way. They discuss the issues with their friends who have also been targeted and they find surprise, surprise they are all of the same mind which further reinforces the message.
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Like I said earlier, Trump's campaign was run more smartly than Hillary's. The smarter team won. Whether this was legal or ethical are different questions. I guess the courts will decide. All's fair in love and war... and politics, I suppose. This was hardball politics -- do whatever it takes to win. If you can get your base to believe Bill and Hillary are murderers and greedy lying politicians, it doesn't matter if it's true or not. All that matters is that you win. Right?
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07-23-2018, 07:27 AM
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Just Deplorable
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That's pretty much what Harry Reid said in 2012.
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07-23-2018, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
So the Russians...hacked the election and somehow influenced all these voters to vote for Trump.
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There is zero doubt that Russia hacked our election in 2016.
what influence they had is debatable.
Hillary supporters say a lot of influence.
Trump supporters say little to none.
But I am sure we all can agree that Russians should be stopped from hacking into our elections starting at the midterms and beyond.
Its incumbent upon our leaders to prevent this as much as possible.
Allan
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07-23-2018, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
There is zero doubt that Russia hacked our election in 2016.
what influence they had is debatable.
Hillary supporters say a lot of influence.
Trump supporters say little to none.
But I am sure we all can agree that Russians should be stopped from hacking into our elections starting at the midterms and beyond.
Its incumbent upon our leaders to prevent this as much as possible.
Allan
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Make voter ID mandatory.....Make polling places into 24/7 venues for a period of a week. An appearnce at the polling booth would be manatory with very few exceptions.
If you are serious about stopping voter fraud....act like it.
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07-23-2018, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by incoming
Make voter ID mandatory.....Make polling places into 24/7 venues for a period of a week. An appearnce at the polling booth would be manatory with very few exceptions.
If you are serious about stopping voter fraud....act like it.
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Voter fraud? I wasnt talking voter fraud. I was talking about a foreign country (russia) hacking into our computer infrastructure.
thats what we need to prevent if possible.
Allan
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