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05-07-2009, 04:08 AM
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Just another Facist
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oklahoma joins Texas........tells Congress .....
http://www.newsok.com/house-bypasses...rticle/3366762
House bypasses governor’s veto to claim Oklahoma’s sovereignty
The House passed the measure 73-22. It now goes to the Senate.
"We’re going to get it done one way or the other,” said the resolutions’ author, Rep. Charles Key, R-Oklahoma City.
"I think our governor is out of step.”
House Democrats objected, saying the issue already had been taken up and had been vetoed, but House Speaker Pro Tempore Kris Steele, R-Shawnee, ruled the veto is not final action.
Key said he expects HCR 1028 will pass in the Senate. HJR 1003 earlier passed the House 83-18 and won approval in the Senate 29-18.
Henry vetoed HJR 1003 because he said it suggested, among other things, that Oklahoma should return federal tax dollars.
Key said HCR 1028, which, if passed, would be sent to Democratic President Barack Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress, would not jeopardize federal funds but would tell Congress to "get back into their proper constitutional role.” The resolution states the federal government should "cease and desist” mandates that are beyond the scope of its powers.
Key said many federal laws violate the 10th Amendment, which says powers not delegated to the U.S. government "are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.” The Constitution lists about 20 duties required of the U.S. government, he said.
more at the link
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05-07-2009, 10:45 AM
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Here is a handy site that is following the various 10th ammendment resolutions around the country. Napolitano must have her staff on overtime following up on all this right-wing extremism.
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05-07-2009, 12:59 PM
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Ok, Ralph, I read the article. Do you know what the beef is; specifically, which part of the Consitution precludes the Fed gov't from issuing bailout funds?
I get the whole thing but do you ever wonder if the people of Oklahoma are happy their state legislature is spending its time on what is pretty much just a political position?
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05-07-2009, 01:11 PM
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Much Ado About Nothing
Whenever Quebec wants something they yell succession from the commonwealth and the government gives in to their request.
If they ever did leave they would have no currency, no foreign relations apparatus, no military, and would collapse.
A ploy with a beard on it a mile long.
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05-07-2009, 01:46 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba X
Ok, Ralph, I read the article. Do you know what the beef is; specifically, which part of the Consitution precludes the Fed gov't from issuing bailout funds?
I get the whole thing but do you ever wonder if the people of Oklahoma are happy their state legislature is spending its time on what is pretty much just a political position?
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The question is, what part of it authorizes it to do so. The Fed has ONLY the right specifically granted by the constitution. All other right default to the
states.
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05-07-2009, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
If they ever did leave they would have no currency, no foreign relations apparatus, no military, and would collapse.
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And if they stay, that ill happen to the Union.
Might as well take your shot sans Obama.
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05-07-2009, 02:09 PM
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Let Oklahoma go. In fact, the whole Big-12 Conference can go.
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05-07-2009, 02:16 PM
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wow, people seem to have no clue. this is not about secession. its about having the Fed's stick to their mandates, which are exactly things like defense and foreign relations.
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05-07-2009, 02:53 PM
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Yes. Trivial things like interstate commerce should not be regulated in any way by the federal government. At least Phil Gramm would agree. Then again, if you said the recession is just a mental condition of some people, Phil Gramm would agree with that.
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05-07-2009, 03:13 PM
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yes, states should never resist and push back against additional federal strings. they should bend over and adapt to whatever comes from Washington because Washington ALWAYS knows better.
the states created the federal government, and now it has run amuck.
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05-07-2009, 03:26 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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This whole think is just another Obama lie.
The so called FREE money the states are getting lock them into foolish expenditures down the road. Obama has twisted the truth about this. A fiscal responsible state would have nothing to do with Obama - the worst spender and waster in our history. Nay, I say, of the WORLD! You would be better advised to tey one of theose Nigerian email offers tham take money from Obama. Ya gots a betta shot, fer shore!
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05-07-2009, 03:38 PM
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As times go on and the economic landscape becomes even gloomier, we are more likely to see many more of these kinds of initiatives on the part of state legislatures.
There are twenty-eight states starting to move towards a sovereign itinerary. They are fed up with the federal government's oppressive laws around their necks.
The rapid socialization of America, will have the effect of turning many states toward more radical plans of action. One can only hope ---
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05-07-2009, 03:45 PM
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I an 100% convinced that we do not need, nor can we survive, with all 50 states in a union. We must trim down, cut deadwood, and rebuilt ourselves based on like beliefs. We are diluted beyond repair and the inevitable is our slump into a third world nation. John Edwards was right, there are two Americas - a Red on ad a Blue one.
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05-07-2009, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
John Edwards was right, there are two Americas - a Red on ad a Blue one.
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Uh-oh. I see a graph from Hcap on the horizon.
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05-07-2009, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
I an 100% convinced that we do not need, nor can we survive, with all 50 states in a union. We must trim down, cut deadwood, and rebuilt ourselves based on like beliefs. We are diluted beyond repair and the inevitable is our slump into a third world nation. John Edwards was right, there are two Americas - a Red on ad a Blue one.
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is cutting the "deadwood", our own people, is that the American way?
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