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02-20-2020, 08:55 AM
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velocitician
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Doesn't the flu do that as well?
I know, we have "flu shots" for that..
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The make up of the flu vaccine ALWAYS lags behind the actual mutated current forms.
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02-20-2020, 08:56 AM
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velocitician
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Good stuff PA  |
yes from a TRUE expert in medical science
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02-20-2020, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
The make up of the flu vaccine ALWAYS lags behind the actual mutated current forms.
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EXACTLY !!! The reason it is ineffective and overrated.
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02-20-2020, 10:46 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
In infectious disease, it is ALWAYS better safe than sorry.
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I agree totally. However, what is going on now is not actually "being safe than sorry." It's gone WAY BEYOND that...
You're a doc.
Do you agree with the science that says something like 50,000 to 80,000 PEOPLE DIE FROM THE GOOD OL' FLU EVERY YEAR IN THE USA?!?!?!?!?
I'm sure you do.
So why aren't we quarantining people every year who show flu symptoms? After all, it is HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS and it KILLS A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE.
Nobody stops you from getting on an airplane if you have the flu.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 02-20-2020 at 10:48 AM.
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02-20-2020, 10:47 AM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
yes from a TRUE expert in medical science
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You seem triggered.
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02-20-2020, 10:50 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
I am reminded as regards the summer before the pandemic of 1918.
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 How the hell old ARE you?
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02-20-2020, 11:12 AM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
yes from a TRUE expert in medical science
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He was using simple math. Nothing medical about it.
I remember a few weeks back, hearing the numbers on radio brought me to a similar conclusion as PA. Trusting the numbers is the hard part. If they are close to accurate, PA has made some very good points using basic common sense.
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02-20-2020, 01:22 PM
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Its hard to get a firm grip on numbers because the Chinese government isn't telling us how many bodies they've scooped up off streets and burned.
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02-20-2020, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I agree totally. However, what is going on now is not actually "being safe than sorry." It's gone WAY BEYOND that...
You're a doc.
Do you agree with the science that says something like 50,000 to 80,000 PEOPLE DIE FROM THE GOOD OL' FLU EVERY YEAR IN THE USA?!?!?!?!?
I'm sure you do.
So why aren't we quarantining people every year who show flu symptoms? After all, it is HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS and it KILLS A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE.
Nobody stops you from getting on an airplane if you have the flu.
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It is all a collaboration and plot between the dims and Chinese dictator to tank the world economy so Trump does not get reelected.
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02-20-2020, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
Its hard to get a firm grip on numbers because the Chinese government isn't telling us how many bodies they've scooped up off streets and burned.
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Can't find the original story I read last week... But
http://www.shadolsonshow.com/2020/02...ing-of-bodies/
It's a matter of what we don't know... what is the real reason behind China's Panic?
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02-20-2020, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I see nothing to get alarmed about as of yet, other than humankind's never-ending ability to be thoroughly bamboozled.
In fact, the more I think about what I posted above, the more insightful I believe it to be...hella-more insightful than all this other nonsense being thrown around about this virus.
I'll let you know when I'm alarmed.
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I wish I could be so cavalier. I’ve got 20 years on you and have respiratory disease.
Here’s a link to just how nasty this virus can be.
https://apple.news/AGxK7VgrTRkaxSKgrrUzbzg
It looks like the flu on steroids. Also seems to be highly contagious. I get this **** and I’m done. I’m not obsessing about it but definitely concerned.
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02-20-2020, 05:50 PM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
EXACTLY !!! The reason it is ineffective and overrated.
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Don't know about you but I will take partial immunity over none at all.
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02-21-2020, 04:12 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Originally Posted by TJDave
I wish I could be so cavalier. I’ve got 20 years on you and have respiratory disease.
Here’s a link to just how nasty this virus can be.
https://apple.news/AGxK7VgrTRkaxSKgrrUzbzg
It looks like the flu on steroids. Also seems to be highly contagious. I get this **** and I’m done. I’m not obsessing about it but definitely concerned. |
I have no doubt this disease would be especially dangerous to somebody with an underlying condition.
The common flu is also far more dangerous to someone with an underlying medical condition as well.
That link wanted me to put in my email address to continue reading...so I didn't get to read it...but it looked interesting from what I could see.
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02-21-2020, 10:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Western NY
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
yes from a TRUE expert in medical science
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Spoken from a former podiatrist who is a wannabe MD.
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02-21-2020, 12:46 PM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 26,301
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Originally Posted by xtb
Spoken from a former podiatrist who is a wannabe MD.
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The first few years we shared classes read the same books...There is no differences in basic medical education. One is NEVER a former anything, only retired one as too much blood sweat and tears went into that degree.
Clinical rotations were at SF General, Stanford University Hospital, Kaiser Hospitals, VA Hospitals, GF Strong Rehabilitation Hospital Vancouver, and my resiliency was at a major 1400 medical school associated teaching hospital Vancouver General.
I scrubbed in on all manner surgeries, rotated through many specialties (did my own research on some areas where I thought my clinical experience needed bolstering), worked the ER, the burn unit, radiology, psychiatry, OB Gyn where I assisted on several births and C-sections, orthopedics of course, rehabilitation medicine, worked as a lecturer for the Canadian Diabetic Association, etc etc.
NO differences in basic medical education.
I often laugh at how ignorant the general population is as regard medical education. A psychiatrist studies and participates in cardiac clinical situations, the dermatologist knows obstetrics, the otolaryngologist has experience with EKG's and EEG interpretations, & internists know all about difference dermatological lesions.....WHY? because they all are INTERRELATED in the understanding of the WHOLE person and the clinical signs and symptoms that produce multi-symptom pathologies.
Patients are not educated in understanding that a symptoms isolated to one region of the body can, and most often does, reflect a systemic problem. Without an understanding of odd ball things like Ewing sarcoma or ainhum or sub acute sclerosing encephalitis, Hirshsprung's disease one cannot call themselves DOCTOR
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