Polar Bear Expert's Opinions "Unhelpful" to GW

[hcap]

So now the PA amateurish climatologists pretend one of the greatest scientific minds of all times warning us about AGW dangers and evidence of approaching tipping points can't be taken seriously because they have no clue to his physics. Why not criticize his work on black holes or gravity?

Youse guys need to study theoretical physics. I have

https://ny.pbslearningmedia.org/reso.../#.WmBwYXlrwsU

What is time? Is time travel possible? Today, we know that time travel indeed exists beyond myths, science fiction, and Hollywood movies. According to Stephen Hawking, time travel is possible, and not just in the way we might think. Backward time travel is not supported by Hawking’s theories, because new matter (a new you) would need to be created – one existing in the past and one in the present, traveling back in time. This doesn’t hold up, because matter cannot be created. However, time travel to the future is possible if gravity warps the space-time continuum. Anytime you climb a mountain, fly in a jet from place to place, or even ride in an elevator, you alter the speed at which you get to the future because you are encountering a change in gravity’s pull. Time goes faster when there is less gravitational force at play.

Too bad Einstein is not around so the PA amateurs can ALSO irrationally mangle his work on velocity, gravity and time

Albert Einstein proposed that time is a relative concept and the higher you live above sea level the faster you should age. Einstein's theory of relativity states that time and space are not as constant as everyday life would suggest.

[hcap]

I suppose if Professor Hawking had formulated the speed of t as a function of velocity

Where t = time
v = velocity
g = gravity


(t) x (v)/C squared

Or.....

(t) x (g)/C squared

or

OR I guess Tom nailed it

Been faster
Been slower

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

So now the PA amateurish climatologists pretend one of the greatest scientific minds of all times warning us about AGW dangers and evidence of approaching tipping points can't be taken seriously because they have no clue to his physics. Why not criticize his work on black holes or gravity?

Youse guys need to study theoretical physics. I have

https://ny.pbslearningmedia.org/reso.../#.WmBwYXlrwsU

What is time? Is time travel possible? Today, we know that time travel indeed exists beyond myths, science fiction, and Hollywood movies. According to Stephen Hawking, time travel is possible, and not just in the way we might think. Backward time travel is not supported by Hawking’s theories, because new matter (a new you) would need to be created – one existing in the past and one in the present, traveling back in time. This doesn’t hold up, because matter cannot be created. However, time travel to the future is possible if gravity warps the space-time continuum. Anytime you climb a mountain, fly in a jet from place to place, or even ride in an elevator, you alter the speed at which you get to the future because you are encountering a change in gravity’s pull. Time goes faster when there is less gravitational force at play.

Too bad Einstein is not around so the PA amateurs can ALSO irrationally mangle his work on velocity, gravity and time

Albert Einstein proposed that time is a relative concept and the higher you live above sea level the faster you should age. Einstein's theory of relativity states that time and space are not as constant as everyday life would suggest.

Yeah...okay...tell us what Time IS.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Yeah...okay...tell us what Time IS.

That is way over your head.

Oops I forgot you taught Professor Hawking everything he knows in addition to the future preceding the present and past.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

That is way over your head.

Oops I forgot you taught Professor Hawking everything he knows in addition to the future preceding the present and past.

All I know is that the Future cannot possibly proceed from the Past; for it did we would know everything that is going to take place in the Future since it already occurred in the Past. Did you catch this or was it over your head?

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by hcap

Youse guys need to study theoretical physics. I have

https://ny.pbslearningmedia.org/reso.../#.WmBwYXlrwsU

Maybe you need to look up what "theoretical" means. It is just a fancy word for guessing. Theory is what scientists used in the 70's to predict the ice age that never showed up. Just because Hawking predicts a bunch of wild crap with his vivid imagination does not mean it exists or will come true. Maybe you should Google for "Failed scientific predictions."

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Maybe you need to look up what "theoretical" means. It is just a fancy word for guessing. Theory is what scientists used in the 70's to predict the ice age that never showed up. Just because Hawking predicts a bunch of wild crap with his vivid imagination does not mean it exists or will come true. Maybe you should Google for "Failed scientific predictions."

And "failed Gore predictions", too.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Maybe you need to look up what "theoretical" means. It is just a fancy word for guessing. Theory is what scientists used in the 70's to predict the ice age that never showed up. Just because Hawking predicts a bunch of wild crap with his vivid imagination does not mean it exists or will come true. Maybe you should Google for "Failed scientific predictions."

Maybe hcap is confusing theoretical global warming as fact. Even comes up with a BS 97% practitioners agree statement.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

All I know is that the Future cannot possibly proceed from the Past; for it did we would know everything that is going to take place in the Future since it already occurred in the Past. Did you catch this or was it over your head?

Accurately predicting the future requires an accurate understanding of the past and the proper understanding of cause and effect. Cause always precedes effect on the non quantum level. Therefore Professor your nonsense is just that.

Please we have been over this before on the Religion threads and there is no point doing it again

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Accurately predicting the future requires an accurate understanding of the past and the proper understanding of cause and effect. Cause always precedes effect on the non quantum level. Therefore Professor your nonsense is just that.

Please we have been over this before on the Religion threads and there is no point doing it again

No one but God can accurately and 100% of the time predict the future. Since you think you have such a great handle on "cause and effect", come up with all the winners on today's GP card of races. Since, according to your idiotic theory, the Future flows from the Past, then this means all those races have already been run and the results are in! Should be a piece of cake fer ya.

And what makes you think that the Future is not causing the Present, and in turn the Present isn't causing the Past?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

No one but God can accurately and 100% of the time predict the future. Since you think you have such a great handle on "cause and effect", come up with all the winners on today's GP card of races. Since, according to your idiotic theory, the Future flows from the Past, then this means all those races have already been run and the results are in! Should be a piece of cake fer ya.

And what makes you think that the Future is not causing the Present, and in turn the Present isn't causing the Past?

Hugh?. Cause always precedes effect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why don't we invite your "god" and Hawking to duke it out here on OT?

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by hcap

Please we have been over this before on the Religion threads and there is no point doing it again

Why not? Both believing in scientific theory and religion requires faith. There have been numerous theological predictions and scientific predictions made by experts in their respective fields that have failed to come true.

Jimmy Swaggert has not been to heaven or seen God, he has no solid proof that either exist. On the other hand it cannot be proven heaven or God do not exist.

Stephen Hawking hasn't been inside a black hole or seen one, he has no solid proof they exist. On the other hand it cannot be proven black holes don't exist.

You can either choose to use your faith to believe or not believe what both of these men have to say. They cannot prove their theories, nor can you disprove them.

Yet we have people calling people ignorant because they don't share their faith.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Why not? Both believing in scientific theory and religion requires faith. There have been numerous theological predictions and scientific predictions made by experts in their respective fields that have failed to come true.

Jimmy Swaggert has not been to heaven or seen God, he has no solid proof that either exist. On the other hand it cannot be proven heaven or God do not exist.

Stephen Hawking hasn't been inside a black hole or seen one, he has no solid proof they exist. On the other hand it cannot be proven black holes don't exist.

You can either choose to use your faith to believe or not believe what both of these men have to say. They cannot prove their theories, nor can you disprove them.

Yet we have people calling people ignorant because they don't share their faith.

There is no point debating the future precedes the present, and whether or not cause always precedes effect on the non quantum level

[incoming]

Originally Posted by hcap

There is no point debating the future precedes the present, and whether or not cause always precedes effect on the non quantum level

OK!! Talk on any level you chose.....What came first .....the chicken or the egg.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Hugh?. Cause always precedes effect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why don't we invite your "god" and Hawking to duke it out here on OT?

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying that in your worldview you have what is cause and effect backwards. You have the cart moving the horse.

How are you doing with today's GP card? Seems like a decent card...