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06-22-2018, 05:00 AM
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#391
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
You almost bought it.
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It sounded more plausible than most of the tin foil hat conspiracy theories from the Daily Caller and Faux, etc.
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06-23-2018, 04:19 AM
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#392
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Originally Posted by fast4522
I said more offerings today, much like racing not always as good as the day before. I also said that it was on the lawyers to what they do next, I am no legal expert but the Judge will surprise one side guaranteed.
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Things look worse for Manafort. The question is will Flyn survive with this going on?
Another Setback For Manafort As Judge Refuses To Throw Out Count In DC Case
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckra...undering-count
A Washington, D.C. federal judge on Friday refused Paul Manafort’s motion to dismiss a money laundering count against him, in yet another legal setback for the former Trump campaign chairman
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06-23-2018, 10:57 AM
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#393
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Trumps going to pardon him eventually.
He’s going to sue for malicious prosecution
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06-23-2018, 01:59 PM
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#394
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Trumps going to pardon him eventually.
He’s going to sue for malicious prosecution
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Not quite.
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary...or-real-crimes
Jonathan Turley,......
"True, the Constitution gives a president total discretion in the granting of pardons and commutations. However, it was not designed, and should not be used, to protect figures like Manafort or Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen. Shortly after Manafort was thrown into jail pending trial, Trump lamented, “Wow, what a tough sentence for Paul Manafort, who has represented Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole and many other top political people and campaigns. Didn’t know Manafort was the head of the mob.”
Additionally......
"Mueller filed new charges against Manafort in February, but did not include a raft of potential fraud and tax charges. As Vox reported, this omission could be a choice to create room for states to bring forward other charges should Trump pardon Manafort. "
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06-23-2018, 02:31 PM
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#395
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Originally Posted by hcap
Not quite.
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary...or-real-crimes
Jonathan Turley,......
"True, the Constitution gives a president total discretion in the granting of pardons and commutations. However, it was not designed, and should not be used, to protect figures like Manafort or Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen. Shortly after Manafort was thrown into jail pending trial, Trump lamented, “Wow, what a tough sentence for Paul Manafort, who has represented Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole and many other top political people and campaigns. Didn’t know Manafort was the head of the mob.”
Additionally......
"Mueller filed new charges against Manafort in February, but did not include a raft of potential fraud and tax charges. As Vox reported, this omission could be a choice to create room for states to bring forward other charges should Trump pardon Manafort. "
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Fantastic.
So this whole investigation really isn't about Russian interference in an election, but some kind of personal vendetta against the guy that was elected and those around him.
At least we got that squared away.
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06-23-2018, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Fantastic.
So this whole investigation really isn't about Russian interference in an election, but some kind of personal vendetta against the guy that was elected and those around him.
At least we got that squared away.
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You gents always forget....
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...estions-238536
2) What is the scope of the investigation and could Mueller expand it?
Mueller has been assigned to probe Russia’s alleged interference in the 2016 election, which the FBI had been pursuing, with Justice Department approval. Mueller’s authority specifically includes “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.” Rosenstein’s directive also says Mueller can pursue “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation,” including crimes like perjury or obstruction of justice.
Here is the offiicial mandate
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-re...67231/download
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06-23-2018, 02:53 PM
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Great!! A mandated witch hunt, when you find absolutely nothing regarding Russia feel free to dig up any dirt you may find associated with any Trump associates.
A mandate only you would endorse. Pretty soon Mule Ears will start a GoMe Fund.
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06-23-2018, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
Great!! A mandated witch hunt, when you find absolutely nothing regarding Russia feel free to dig up any dirt you may find associated with any Trump associates.
A mandate only you would endorse. Pretty soon Mule Ears will start a GoMe Fund.
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Maybe you guys will post pages and pages calling for a new I.G. report invetigating your imaginartive "witch hunt" fantasies. The first one found zero, zip wrong except for poor judgement.
I just realized what you Trumpeteer cultists remind me of.
Maybe youse guys should turn up the volume and totally numb your minds
Sure is a hell of a lot of "woofing" going on
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06-23-2018, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Maybe you guys will post pages and pages calling for a new I.G. report invetigating your imaginartive "witch hunt" fantasies. The first one found zero, zip wrong except for poor judgement.
I just realized what you Trumpeteer cultists remind me of.
Maybe youse guys should turn up the volume and totally numb your minds
Sure is a hell of a lot of "woofing" going on
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Maybe youz don't understand... Horowitz never said Zip and Nada was there in the Clinton Email Scandal... It's a matter of what we know and what can be proven in court.
Now the Russian witch hunt... that's a whole new smelly kettle of fish. We got a whiff of it during the email papers.
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06-23-2018, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OntheRail
Maybe youz don't understand... Horowitz never said Zip and Nada was there in the Clinton Email Scandal... It's a matter of what we know and what can be proven in court.
Now the Russian witch hunt... that's a whole new smelly kettle of fish. We got a whiff of it during the email papers.
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Except that witch hunt is prosecuting high ranking members of the Trump campaign with crimes.
The IG report was a dud.
Even Trump turned on it.
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06-23-2018, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Except that witch hunt is prosecuting high ranking members of the Trump campaign with crimes.
The IG report was a dud.
Even Trump turned on it.
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And for what?
Just stupid shit so they can hold a scalp up and say "see".
Claim 20+ or so crap and 18 are Russian dudes they'll never prosecute.
What have Flynn and Manafort done that really are Russian influence in our election?
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06-23-2018, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
And for what?
Just stupid shit so they can hold a scalp up and say "see".
Claim 20+ or so crap and 18 are Russian dudes they'll never prosecute.
What have Flynn and Manafort done that really are Russian influence in our election?
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Manafort took bribes from Russian oligarchs.
That's a big deal.
Then there is the money laundering scheme.
I get it though... you want to minimize the crime. I just wish there was a thread around here where the #MAGA crowd repeated over and over again the law is the law...
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06-23-2018, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Manafort took bribes from Russian oligarchs.
That's a big deal.
Then there is the money laundering scheme.
I get it though... you want to minimize the crime. I just wish there was a thread around here where the #MAGA crowd repeated over and over again the law is the law...
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Not anymore. The law is not the law. Obama taught us that. Hillary and Jim Comey taught us that. I could give a shit about the law, short of murder, anymore. It’s my side against your side from now on. And we are winning because we finally decided to play by the rules as you do.
And it’s going to get worse.......for the other side
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06-23-2018, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Not anymore. The law is not the law. Obama taught us that. Hillary and Jim Comey taught us that. I could give a shit about the law, short of murder, anymore. It’s my side against your side from now on. And we are winning because we finally decided to play by the rules as you do.
And it’s going to get worse.......for the other side
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What if someone doesn't have a "side?"
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 06-23-2018 at 08:38 PM.
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06-23-2018, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Manafort took bribes from Russian oligarchs.
That's a big deal.
Then there is the money laundering scheme.
I get it though... you want to minimize the crime. I just wish there was a thread around here where the #MAGA crowd repeated over and over again the law is the law...
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Back in like 2002? Really? Is that what this comes down to?
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