DISGRACE AT GULFSTREAM RACE 7

[parlay]

In any other country they would through all these jocks in jail! Not saying the horse wasn't possible, but he should at least have to run to prove it. These Ortiz guys are importing the same shit that ruined NY. Just disgusting how the stewards can allow this.

[cj]

Come on, a good rant needs detail!

[JustRalph]

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[tophatmert]

Fill me in here was someone supposed to go with the winner early?

[parlay]

i understand that he projected to be speed, but not lone speed in those kind of fractions. It is incumbent on the other riders to ride a race within reasonable pace parameters. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS HORSE WINNING THE RACE, I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE MANNER IN WHICH THE RACE WAS RUN. I f this race was run in Hong Kong they would have had all the jocks who had mounts capable of pressing the pace in for a explanation. You must ride your horse in a reasonable facsimile to what he is projected to do, or have a very good explanation for why you didn't. I see these types of races all to often in NY and it STINKS. "We probably can't beat ortiz so we will just saunter around till the 16th pole". Greattt! Please send out the twitter that your all going to watch so we can bet another track. SORRY, THIS HAS STOPPED ME FROM BETTING NYRA AND NOW IT IS INFECTING GP. I'LL STICK TO OAKLAWN THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!

[Afleet]

I like the 3/4 fraction of 1:16.34-were these $10k MCL's?

[Tom]

You can't call it racin' if the ponies aren't pacin'

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[jocko699]

Originally Posted by Afleet

I like the 3/4 fraction of 1:16.34-were these $10k MCL's?

Must have been a tremendous headwind

[Andy Asaro]

Jockeys need to be questioned similar to what happens overseas when a really odd race shape develops.

[parlay]

Originally Posted by Afleet

I like the 3/4 fraction of 1:16.34-were these $10k MCL's?

Maybe CJ can comment on how slow that number is, i know it may not be a slow as it looks on its face. But how is the 3 back at the 1/4 and 4 at the 1/2 in those fractions? if he challenges in reasonable fractions and gets put away i sleep okay, but if your going to accede you should have to send out a twitter.

[magwell]

Originally Posted by parlay

In any other country they would through all these jocks in jail! Not saying the horse wasn't possible, but he should at least have to run to prove it. These Ortiz guys are importing the same shit that ruined NY. Just disgusting how the stewards can allow this.

Are you saying the jocks are all stupid
for not pressing a faster pace
or they were in on the outcome ?

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by magwell

Are you saying the jocks are all stupid
for not pressing a faster pace
or they were in on the outcome ?

I am very suspicious of the pace in a lot of races. Are two bothers gonna pressure each other? Are two jocks with the same agents gonna duel? It's the easiest way to manipulate a race IMO

[RunForTheRoses]

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on

ABRAHAM made the lead unchallenged, ambled along through easy fractions, settled into the stretch well in command on the rail, and remained clear under a drive

[RunForTheRoses]

The horse (in second try) really took to turf and trainer switch (and of course the pace helped). There wasn't too much speed but you would have thought the 2 4and 6 would have shown some. Sinatra is not really a close up horse but he sorta was. Can CJ post the TFUS, at least the pace view?

Via Whobet:

http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_vi...param3=1002946

[oughtoh]

You also don't know what the trainers of those other horses told the jockeys