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Old 03-25-2019, 09:55 AM   #91
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Maduro is going to hold on...

The Russian Coming Out Party is still rolling on...

Russian troops land in Venezuela: reports
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:13 PM   #92
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How can that be JR, elysiantraveller said we were going to do that?
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Military uprising taking place today......
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Old 04-30-2019, 10:48 AM   #94
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Coup is officially underway.

Troops shooting at troops and mass arrests going on from both sides. Guaido currently rallying people in the streets of Caracas but not installed at the moment.

Going to be a interesting day there...
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Old 04-30-2019, 11:14 AM   #95
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Coup is officially underway.

Troops shooting at troops and mass arrests going on from both sides. Guaido currently rallying people in the streets of Caracas but not installed at the moment.

Going to be a interesting day there...
Weren't all of the 'people's' guns taken away, at some point????
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Old 04-30-2019, 11:26 AM   #96
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Weren't all of the 'people's' guns taken away, at some point????
They banned the sale of firearms back in 2012.

Honestly that might have ended up being a good thing though depending on how this plays out. At least in terms of the human cost.

Air base in Caracas at risk of being overrun at the moment. Wonder how the Russians there are feeling...

We also don't appear to be behind this as we are a bit flatfooted. No Amphib groups or Carriers deployed to react.
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Old 04-30-2019, 11:45 AM   #97
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We also don't appear to be behind this
Not surprised that we're not behind this, but would be surprised if we don't get dragged into it. Anything yet out of Washington?
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Old 04-30-2019, 12:03 PM   #98
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Not surprised that we're not behind this, but would be surprised if we don't get dragged into it. Anything yet out of Washington?
Full support for the attempt.

Longer it goes more likely our involvement becomes.

We just don't have a lot of assets on hand right now. Ike is at sea but due back in Norfolk today.
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Media blackout in effect now in Venezuela...
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The coup appears to have failed as several opposition leaders have now sought asylum in foreign embassies and residences.

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Guaido is apparently at a local military airbase with loyal officers. Could be at a deadlock with neither side yielding and more fighting tomorrow.
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Old 04-30-2019, 06:27 PM   #101
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This should be directed at Russia but isn't because "reasons"... it also probably shouldn't be on Twitter.

Time to pay attention to where the Carrier and Amphib groups are though...
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They banned the sale of firearms back in 2012.

Honestly that might have ended up being a good thing though
depending on how this plays out. At least in terms of the human cost.

Air base in Caracas at risk of being overrun at the moment. Wonder how the Russians there are feeling...

We also don't appear to be behind this as we are a bit flatfooted. No Amphib groups or Carriers deployed to react.
So, you're okay with the people of Venezuela not being able to defend themselves or secure their changes of rising against a tyrannical government? I wonder just how tyrannical their government would have gotten, had the people been armed.

Would you feel the same about someone being able to ban the sale of firearms here, in a similar way?
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...33506346749952

This should be directed at Russia but isn't because "reasons"... it also probably shouldn't be on Twitter.
Isn’t Vlad on Twitter?
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So, you're okay with the people of Venezuela not being able to defend themselves or secure their changes of rising against a tyrannical government? I wonder just how tyrannical their government would have gotten, had the people been armed.

Would you feel the same about someone being able to ban the sale of firearms here, in a similar way?
You're putting words in my mouth.

What I meant was the fact the that everybody doesn't have guns is going to likely lower the human cost of this affair. That's a good thing no matter what way you slice it.

As of now the military is mostly fence-sitting. Some loyalists are supporting Maduro and others are defecting and supporting Guaido.

I'm a pretty staunch Second Amendment guy... it was just an observation of this particular case at this particular time.
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This should be directed at Russia but isn't because "reasons"... it also probably shouldn't be on Twitter.

Time to pay attention to where the Carrier and Amphib groups are though...
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