Women in combat.....vote

[delayjf]

You guys are talking like they aren't in combat already. They have been in combat at least since the beginning of the Iraqi War. We should not about whether they should allowed in combat roles, but whether we should take them out of those roles.

Big difference between sitting on a Humvee in a convoy or working in a HQ which happens to come under attack and having to hoof it up and down the streets of Baghdad or worst in the Afgan mountains with a 60 pound pack on your back.

[Actor]

What happens after the war when a female POW is repatriated and she reports that she was raped twice a day during her captivity?

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by Actor

What happens after the war when a female POW is repatriated and she reports that she was raped twice a day during her captivity?

What about male POWs who have suffered similar atrocities?

[BlueShoe]

Vehemently opposed, in fact, believe that women's integration into the armed forces has already gone too far. Women cause far more than their share of morale and disipline problems, as well as lower combat efficiency, according to many senior NCO's and career officers willing to talk off of the record. Women on average have only half the upper body and two thirds the lower body strength of men, and no amount of social engineering is going to change that. They do not have the emotional toughness to endure the sustained sheer terror of prolonged combat. If our men have high rates of PTSD, what would it be for women retuning from a long tour of combat, through the roof?

Am well aware that some women have performed very well in short intense firefights, but that is not the same as actual long tours of combat. Am not questioning the patriotism, dedication to duty, or technical expertise of our female warriors, just their physical and emotional shortcomings for combat roles. Social engineering does not win battles. War is not an Equal Opportunity Employer, the winners are the bigest, strongest, toughest men with the best weapons and the superior training and disipline.

[Rookies]

This is yet another issue where America is finally catching up to other western democracies- like Canada. I would have thought that a proper maternity leave would have been highest on the agenda but...

I am somewhat in the middle on this one. A Canadian woman died in combat in Afghanistan in 2006- our first. There are legitimate strength and endurance physical differences between the sexes. Therefore, I do believe that those women serving in extended combat zones like Afghanistan need to be selected, carefully. There will be some who are appropriate, but the rules shouldn't be totally open.

[horses4courses]

Historic progress.
She went through the same training as any man,
and absolutely has the right to do the same job.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/veterans...fficer-n563761

[delayjf]

She went thru the training, but had she been a male she would not have passed. She was repeatedly coached and allowed to repeat several training courses over and over until she passed. A man would have been washed out had he performed in the same manner.

The CJCS said they would question any training that women were unable to pass and that is exactly what happened here.

There is no "Right" to serve in the Military, just as their is no "Right" to play in the NFL or NBA.

Congratulations Obama, you've weakened a country today.

[Tom]

"Standards" are now sexist.

[Flysofree]

Can we all just "get along"? Or
Can we all go to the same bathroom?

[Tape Reader]

I vote for JustRalph coming back as "JustRalphella.” (Miss you.)

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by delayjf

She went thru the training, but had she been a male she would not have passed. She was repeatedly coached and allowed to repeat several training courses over and over until she passed. A man would have been washed out had he performed in the same manner.

The CJCS said they would question any training that women were unable to pass and that is exactly what happened here.

There is no "Right" to serve in the Military, just as their is no "Right" to play in the NFL or NBA.

Congratulations Obama, you've weakened a country today.

Are you privy to military personnel files,
or were you a bug on the wall?

[shots]

Originally Posted by Tom

Are they prepared to drop a platoon of 100% women behind enemy lines in a war?

Will it be mandatory for all women troops, or will they allow choice?

You nailed the questions that need to be answered.
Also , can they do that with children back home?

[delayjf]

Are you privy to military personnel files,
or were you a bug on the wall?

Yes,
My brother is special forces and knows several instructors who were involved with her training class. I have a first cousin (a Colonel in the Army)who works in the Pentagon who also verified how she made it thru Ranger school. The word is already out, tow the line on gays, transgender, and women etc. or your career is over.

The issue of women in combat has been studied by the US, Britain and others. None of the studies supported women in combat. The Sec of Defense ignored all of the research when he implemented this policy. But that's no surprise with this administration - isn't one of the tenets of Saul Alinsky is to demoralize the military?