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Old 08-10-2022, 11:12 AM   #61
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Some of the replies are funny but some are flat out horrible

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Now I want to see that boxing match we just need a few sponsors. Wonder if NYRA or ABR is interested
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Old 08-10-2022, 11:22 AM   #62
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Wow, so much to unpack in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/peterberry57/sta...59155269222404

Talk about a persecution complex. Most of that stuff he listed never actually happened.

But that never stopped anyone on twitter before...

I guess all these years on here that I kept asking why such an excellent announcer like Peter Berry doesn't get picked up for a major circuit gig...there's my answer, all wrapped up in one tidy tweet.

It's not his announcing that's holding him back...that's for sure.

Regardless of whether there's any real back story, Peter Berry is an amazing announcer and should have not had to turn to real estate to make a living part of the time as he shared previously on social media - give the man a break

Mountaineer has managed to provide quality insight and commentary regardless of a variety of ownership changes and cost cutting, and Patterson and Berry deserve all the credit

Berry deserves to announce in a major venue

As for TLG the only explanation of his ongoing gig is that no one in charge cares or is paying attention

I would love to see TLG as a roving guy with a microphone, he'd be great at that - but his "insights" and value as a resource is near zero

Seriously, if there was a poll as to who are the 5 most useless public handicappers in the US, how would he possibly not make it on such a list

This isn't a boxing match, it's quality against quantity

Edited to add: also civility (and being nice and smart when speaking publicly) versus being unnecessarily bitter pretty much all the time for no particular reason (as if that's helpful to NYRA in any way shape or form)

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Old 08-10-2022, 11:27 AM   #63
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Regardless of whether there's any real back story, Peter Berry is an amazing announcer and should have not had to turn to real estate to make a living part of the time as he shared previously on social media - give the man a break

Mountaineer has managed to provide quality insight and commentary regardless of a variety of ownership changes and cost cutting, and Patterson and Berry deserve all the credit

Berry deserves to announce in a major venue

As for TLG the only explanation of his ongoing gig is that no one in charge cares or is paying attention

I would love to see TLG as a roving guy with a microphone, he'd be great at that - but his "insights" and value as a resource is near zero

Seriously, if there was a poll as to who are the 5 most useless public handicappers in the US, how would he possibly not make it on such a list

This isn't a boxing match, it's quality against quantity

Edited to add: also civility (and being nice and smart when speaking publicly) versus being unnecessarily bitter pretty much all the time for no particular reason (as if that's helpful to NYRA in any way shape or form)
Dude, you're hilarious. Seriously. Top notch trolling.

a) the Berry stuff...you're just repeating what I've already said

b) the Andy stuff...you're insane if you actually believe all that...stop being so threatened by certain types of people...you'll feel better about yourself in no time
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Old 08-10-2022, 11:27 AM   #64
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Proof please.
It's from the DRF of July 15th, his analysis of Bernardino

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Old 08-10-2022, 08:12 PM   #65
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Also, because I keep track of handicappers ROI his is higher for the Saratoga meet going head to head with his partner.

Why is it no surprise that somebody on this board believes that third party ROI performances at Saratoga are somehow because of him or anything he did or does?


Whether there is any "lie" or "inaccuracy" involved is secondary to the complete cluelessness to begin the statement well before it reaches the disputed part.
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Old 08-10-2022, 08:30 PM   #66
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Why is it no surprise that somebody on this board believes that third party ROI performances at Saratoga are somehow because of him or anything he did or does?


Whether there is any "lie" or "inaccuracy" involved is secondary to the complete cluelessness to begin the statement well before it reaches the disputed part.
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Old 08-11-2022, 09:59 AM   #67
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Old 08-11-2022, 01:13 PM   #68
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He might have considered showing some humility in his response in a public forum. He came across as an arsehole.
and another horse breaks down in the stretch at the Spa in the 1st, this time a Chad Brown horse

I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the surface...

it does look different this week, not as clear that horses are running in quicksand in the stretch every race

but is it inconsistent now?
someone should ask the riders, they would know

if anyone at NYRA is actually paying attention, or now would be a really good time to start paying attention
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Old 08-11-2022, 01:17 PM   #69
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Anthony Stabile has been on fire.

Noticeable seriousness 'focus' into the Saratoga meet.

Simulcast has guys yelling at the jockeys, certain undercarded 'showcase' stakes, polarizing John Imbriale has haters listening to every noun and verb from his mouth, but there has been some GOOD betting races, some of the finest horseflesh, and Anthony Stabile has been a bright spot moving forward.


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Anthony's all right, he's a nice backup announcer, and he'd make a great lead handicapper actually
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he's a nice backup announcer
is he? really?
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and he'd make a great lead handicapper actually
No he wouldn't...not as long as Serling is working there

That's like saying you have Tom Durkin, but Peter Berry would be a better choice in the booth

Some of you need to put down the crack pipe
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and another horse breaks down in the stretch at the Spa in the 1st, this time a Chad Brown horse

I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the surface...

it does look different this week, not as clear that horses are running in quicksand in the stretch every race

but is it inconsistent now?
someone should ask the riders, they would know

if anyone at NYRA is actually paying attention, or now would be a really good time to start paying attention
You need to go there and personally shut the facility down

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No he wouldn't...not as long as Serling is working there

That's like saying you have Tom Durkin, but Peter Berry would be a better choice in the booth instead

Some of you need to put down the crack pipe
we sure don't have Tom Durkin, that's for sure

and yeah who wants a lead handicapper that's just a nice, informed person

on a side note, can't wait for the 9 consecutive months of the Big A we are about to get, that will be top stuff
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we sure don't have Tom Durkin, that's for sure

and yeah who wants a lead handicapper that's just a nice, informed person

on a side note, can't wait for the 9 consecutive months of the Big A we are about to get, that will be top stuff
How many times are you going to say the same thing?

We get it. You hate "2nd ave deli" Serling.

Duly noted.

Be that as it may, Andy Serling is still, OBJECTIVELY, the BEST, hardest working, MOST INFORMED on-air analyst this business has EVER seen.

OBJECTIVELY

ALWAYS HAS BEEN....ALWAYS WILL BE

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How many times are you going to say the same thing?

We get it. You hate "2nd ave deli" Serling.

Duly noted.

Be that as it may, Andy Serling is still, OBJECTIVELY, the BEST, hardest working, MOST INFORMED on-air analyst this business has EVER seen.

OBJECTIVELY

ALWAYS HAS BEEN....ALWAYS WILL BE

Full stop

I second this, especially listening to the goofs that are on Fox and TVG. Serling makes you think, often there's a nugget in his analysis that gives the player an additional perspective that they might have missed. Coming with actual quantitative reasoning, not the flowering soliloquies that mean nothing that you hear on TVG all the time.
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