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09-24-2016, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Jesus wasn't a pantheist. He never talked about our your kind of god.
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Guess you weren't paying attention. Too busy condemning people to hell.
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09-24-2016, 11:49 PM
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#26792
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Originally Posted by Light
But our true nature is infinite. When we die our personalities will be but a memory and we will probably be reborn into another personality. But what doesn't change is one's essence which is part of God. That is why Jesus said "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'?
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There is no such thing as " true nature" ...there is only "nature". ....and that nature is not infinite, but finite.... Everything that is, was, or will be is bound by its own set of limitations....these limitations serve as a demarcation that set each thing off from that which it is not....infinity exists only as a theoretical concept in the minds of humans....it does not exist as a feature of reality itself....when people say that God is infinite they have enmeshed themselves in absurdities.... Do not seek the guidance of folks that believe such things....
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09-25-2016, 12:58 AM
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#26793
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Originally Posted by boxcar
You theory proves nothing.
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It's not my theory. It's yours.
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Originally Posted by boxcar
The world is under a curse because of mankind's sin.
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That one.
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All misery, suffering, sorrow, pain and death fall on Adam's sin first and our personal sins secondarily.
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You are deflecting. What did the dinosaurs do to deserve "misery, suffering, sorrow, pain and death?"
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09-25-2016, 01:03 AM
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#26794
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Originally Posted by boxcar
I've explained this in the past.
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So, do you have an appointment somewhere?
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It is physical objects that define space.
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How do you know it's not the other way around? How do you know it's not space that defines physical objects? How do you know they are not independent of each other?
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09-25-2016, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
In other words the science of the gaps.
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Of course there are gaps in science. We've only been at it for about 500 years. Meanwhile religion has been doing their thing for millennia.
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There are lots of holes in scientists theories that they someday hope to fill with more rubbish.
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As opposed to religion which is already full of rubbish.
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09-25-2016, 01:15 AM
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#26796
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Originally Posted by Actor
Of course there are gaps in science. We've only been at it for about 500 years. Meanwhile religion has been doing their thing for millennia.
As opposed to religion which is already full of rubbish.
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Boy you guys really rubb each other the wrong way, don't you?
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09-25-2016, 02:03 AM
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#26797
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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
Boy you guys really rubb each other the wrong way, don't you?
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09-25-2016, 05:31 AM
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#26798
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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
Boy you guys really rubb each other the wrong way, don't you?
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Biggest problem with this thread is everyone goes up against the literal minded self appointed "master of ceremonies" here. If this thread were to end tomorrow what would boxcar do?.
As I have said most posters here are Christians or ex-Christians and most either disagree with box on specific Christian terms and beliefs, or are rebelling against their upbringing amd religion in general. Boxcar feeds on always being the most "authentic" Christian and fights anyone who is not in his view an authentic Christian or theist.
Instead of this discussion really moving beyond his rather narrow belief system, most of the time (not always), every one is challenged by boxie to defend themselves from his primitive uneducated religious, philosophical ans pseudo-scientific ramblings.
Under penalty of eternal damnation of course.
Instead of being tittle "Religions", this thread should be called "what does box think?"
The amount of time and energy spent fighting with him is boring and tiresome and from those of us who have been here from the start of this thread an endless loop of repeating topics.
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09-25-2016, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Biggest problem with this thread is everyone goes up against the literal minded self appointed "master of ceremonies" here. If this thread were to end tomorrow what would boxcar do?.
As I have said most posters here are Christians or ex-Christians and most either disagree with box on specific Christian terms and beliefs, or are rebelling against their upbringing amd religion in general. Boxcar feeds on always being the most "authentic" Christian and fights anyone who is not in his view an authentic Christian or theist.
Instead of this discussion really moving beyond his rather narrow belief system, most of the time (not always), every one is challenged by boxie to defend themselves from his primitive uneducated religious, philosophical ans pseudo-scientific ramblings.
Under penalty of eternal damnation of course.
Instead of being tittle "Religions", this thread should be called "what does box think?"
The amount of time and energy spent fighting with him is boring and tiresome and from those of us who have been here from the start of this thread an endless loop of repeating topics.
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The fault is entirely our own. When you meet a man who actually believes that God has authored a guidebook for mankind to follow, then it's best to leave this man alone...lest his condition be contagious.
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09-25-2016, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
The fault is entirely our own. When you meet a man who actually believes that God has authored a guidebook for mankind to follow, then it's best to leave this man alone...lest his condition be contagious.
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Food is now my religion...anybody interested in sharing recipes prepared in Dutch Ovens....the leather here has become unpalatable lately...
Signed, Heaven's Hobo, Joe..
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09-25-2016, 01:33 PM
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#26801
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
The fault is entirely our own. When you meet a man who actually believes that God has authored a guidebook for mankind to follow, then it's best to leave this man alone...lest his condition be contagious.
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Of course it is. But speaking as someone who used to spend hours going toe to toe with him, and someone who has argued against his many idiocies--- too many to list---reading basically the same stuff as new posters realize just how bonkers box is, gets kinda repetitious. Obviously I can not expect them to review all 28,000 posts, but I have not seen anything really new for ages. And one of the main reasons I think is how Christian posters react to someone who claims to be the only "authentic" Christian here.
I think it is easier to ignore boxcar if one is a non-Christian, until of course he calls you out for your being anti-god, etc., etc.
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09-25-2016, 05:22 PM
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#26802
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Originally Posted by Actor
So, do you have an appointment somewhere?
How do you know it's not the other way around? How do you know it's not space that defines physical objects? How do you know they are not independent of each other?
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I've explained this before, too. The universe's fundamental structure is Space, Matter and Time and no one of these components can exist apart from the other two. Think about it for a while.
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09-25-2016, 05:25 PM
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#26803
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Originally Posted by Actor
It's not my theory. It's yours.
That one.
You are deflecting. What did the dinosaurs do to deserve "misery, suffering, sorrow, pain and death?"
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You don't listen too swell. Again, the entire creation (i.e. the universe) is under God's curse due to the fall of mankind. This curse will only be lifted after Christ returns to judge the world and he creates everything anew.
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09-25-2016, 05:28 PM
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#26804
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Originally Posted by Light
Guess you weren't paying attention. Too busy condemning people to hell.
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If Jesus was a pantheist, prove it from scripture.
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09-25-2016, 05:41 PM
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#26805
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Again, the entire creation (i.e. the universe) is under God's curse due to the fall of mankind.
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So the universe was under God's curse even before the fall of mankind? God cursed the universe because he knew mankind would fall?
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