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08-01-2014, 11:07 AM
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From what I heard from a once loyal Harrington follower was that he was lights out for years. Then, about a year or so ago, it all ended. Poor workers were blowing the doors off of good workers. Top rated workers became unreliable. Either a respected guy like Harrington suddenly lost his vision, or something else was happening.
Also for years, horseman at the NYRA tracks, or perhaps NYRA itself, fought like crazy to keep private clockers off the grounds. It certainly wasn't fear of losing a good parking spot by the rail at 5:00AM. Many trainers, and their owners, are degenerate horseplayers. The last thing they want to see in a workout report available for those with a credit card with a $10 limit is how great their unraced 2 or 3 year old worked. Doesn't do much to help that score you have been planning for months. Especially when the guys on the racing channels have the same reports and are telling their audience of thousands, all of whom have betting accounts, how great the horse looked in the mornings.
So the bottom line is that workout reports have gone the way of speed figures, trainer/jockey combos, pedigree information and other once little known data. They were great until everyone had access to them. Then they became a good predictor of who would take a lot of action. And if you see a good worker going off long, then you may be the only one that didn't get the message that the horse can't run.
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08-06-2014, 01:48 AM
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08-06-2014, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by glengarry
From what I heard from a once loyal Harrington follower was that he was lights out for years. Then, about a year or so ago, it all ended. Poor workers were blowing the doors off of good workers. Top rated workers became unreliable. Either a respected guy like Harrington suddenly lost his vision, or something else was happening.
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I have heard the same thing, interesting.
My main question about them was about incomplete reports.
I tried the reports out one weekend specifically to look at SAR and DMR 2yo MSW races, replete with FTS.
In a field of, say, 12 I would see reports on, say 7 runners. Am I really much better off if 5 runners are still a complete mystery with no reports at all? Other than tossing those horses that are apparently working very poorly.
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08-10-2014, 09:56 AM
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racingwithbruno.com
I would recommend Bruno De Julio to anyone.
I missed him on Andy Serling's radio show the other night.
Was wondering if that is archived anywhere?
The product he issues for Saratoga is strong.
It's no magic solution to instant riches, but it's a very handy tool
for horses that are doing well - especially firsters and layoff types.
Nothing beats strong handicapping methods, but having some
insight into horses who are training well has to help.
Good luck!
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08-11-2014, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
I would recommend Bruno De Julio to anyone.
I missed him on Andy Serling's radio show the other night.
Was wondering if that is archived anywhere?
The product he issues for Saratoga is strong.
It's no magic solution to instant riches, but it's a very handy tool
for horses that are doing well - especially firsters and layoff types.
Nothing beats strong handicapping methods, but having some
insight into horses who are training well has to help.
Good luck!
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What tracks does he cover ? Does anyone cover Maryland ?
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08-11-2014, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Maryland Owner
What tracks does he cover ? Does anyone cover Maryland ?
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To my knowledge, he doesn't cover Maryland.
NY, So Cal, Woodbine, and Churchill/Keeneland.
Not sure who does.
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08-11-2014, 10:45 PM
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NY, So Cal, Woodbine, and Churchill/Keeneland.
Bruno must be a magician
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08-11-2014, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver florin
NY, So Cal, Woodbine, and Churchill/Keeneland.
Bruno must be a magician
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Add the Gulfstream winter meet to that.
He has others working for him.
Obviously, he can't be everywhere.
After Saratoga, I think he's taking time off before Keeneland.
The people that assist him in Fla. and NY are excellent,
and Donald Harris is in So Cal for him now, and he's good too.
You can't bet their stuff blindly,
but the horses they get very high on are worth following -
if the price is right.
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