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0bama negotiated for future bargaining power - we have yet to see all results....
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No, we have seen it.
One already back out there fighting against us and two more trying to re-connect.
The only question now is how many innocent people will die to pay for Obama's ignorance?
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03-25-2015, 10:20 PM
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Taliban, not Al Qaeda.
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Tomato, tomoto.
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03-25-2015, 10:35 PM
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Screw PC
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"Potato, pototo" - Dan Quayle
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03-26-2015, 12:34 PM
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Really? That's the only response you have for traitor Barack sending terrorists to our enemy in return for a scumbag deserter?? Who gives a crap what label they have. They are all cut from the same cloth.
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Apparently, our government doesn't feel the same as you do as we have been overtly or covertly helping the Taliban for decades. I also believe trading for Bergdahl was, in principle, the right thing to do...Even if it turns out that he is guilty as charged.
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03-26-2015, 12:55 PM
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Apparently, our government doesn't feel the same as you do as we have been overtly or covertly helping the Taliban for decades. I also believe trading for Bergdahl was, in principle, the right thing to do...Even if it turns out that he is guilty as charged.
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what principle would that be? The principle of saving a deserter or the principle of risking human lives in future terror attacks? Pick one or the other because that is what this exchange was about when you get down to the bottom of the compost pile.
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03-26-2015, 01:03 PM
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what principle would that be? The principle of saving a deserter or the principle of risking human lives in future terror attacks? Pick one or the other because that is what this exchange was about when you get down to the bottom of the compost pile.
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Presumption of innocence.
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03-26-2015, 01:06 PM
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Presumption of innocence.
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Really?? That's it?? Whatever you do in life, don't sign on as a debater. You can't even defend your own thoughts and ideas. 
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03-26-2015, 01:18 PM
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Really?? That's it??
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Yes, really.
Everyone deserves their day in court. Even a deserter.
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03-26-2015, 01:24 PM
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Yes, really.
Everyone deserves their day in court. Even a deserter.
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What in the hell does that have to do with your post #34 and my response?? You post about govt principles as a motivating factor and I responded. That has nothing to do with someone's day in court. It's obvious that this is a weak attempt at deflection on your part, but really, wouldn't it be better to stop posting instead of digging deeper?
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03-26-2015, 01:24 PM
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Still say he was just the cover in the exchange since we had to look like we got something back.
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03-26-2015, 01:45 PM
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What in the hell does that have to do with your post #34 and my response?? You post about govt principles as a motivating factor and I responded.
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What if Bergdahl were a decorated combat hero instead of a suspected deserter. Would you still fault the president for negotiating his release?
Israel has traded dozens of known terrorists for a single soldier.
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03-26-2015, 03:28 PM
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Presumption of innocence.
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Really?
Is that a part of the military code of justice?
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03-26-2015, 03:43 PM
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The principle Obama violated is that we don't negotiate with terrorists. Who Bergdahl is, and what he did or didn't do, is not relevant. The principle is based on the simple concept that ransoming hostages encourages hostage taking.
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03-26-2015, 06:45 PM
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The principle Obama violated is that we don't negotiate with terrorists. Who Bergdahl is, and what he did or didn't do, is not relevant. The principle is based on the simple concept that ransoming hostages encourages hostage taking.
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Bergdahl was a member of the military that left his post without permission.
Since when does the U.S. negotiate and pay ransom for deserters or AWOL soldiers.
At some time, this issue will be resolved and I am certain the result will be controversial. Just remember, Obama is a transformational president and may have reasoned that Bergdahl is a private citizen that was kidnapped or abducted and decided that he was changing the rules of the hostage policy.
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03-26-2015, 08:24 PM
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Really?
Is that a part of the military code of justice?
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Why else have a court martial?
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