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Originally Posted by Tom
If you bet on RH, you deserved to lose! 
This is the game they have set up - uncoupled entries.
Live with it or change it.
I say change it, and while we are at it, come up with something more fair and intelligent than than putting the 3 stooges in a booth with a TV screen ( an liquor) and expecting good policing of the game. The idea is totally absurd.
Let's go after the REAL problems.
NYRA has a history of steward incompetence. |
1. If you bet on RH, you deserved to lose!
A. Spoken like a true gambler. Screw everybody as long as I cash. Nice attitude. Unlike you, my posts on this topic are about the integrity of the game , the dishonesty that I witnessed and the questions that need to be answered by the rider and the trainer in front of the governing body.
The fact that you say this and laugh about it simply proves what management counts on, that being, that gamblers are only in it for themselves and will never muster enough of a group to force any changes at all. So far, they are right. After all, you just reaffirmed it.
2.This is the game they have set up - uncoupled entries.
A. And customers let them.
3. I say change it, and while we are at it, come up with something more fair and intelligent than than putting the 3 stooges in a booth with a TV screen ( an liquor) and expecting good policing of the game. The idea is totally absurd.
A. Change that as well. That's fine with me. The part about liquor is on you to prove though. I was in the Stewards room during the running of races or directly before or after many times in a period of 24 years and I NEVER saw anything close to that.
4.Let's go after the REAL problems.
NYRA has a history of steward incompetence.[/QUOTE]
A. If you don't think that what Restoring Hope's jockey did to anybody that bet on him or the owners of him is a REAL problem then that in itself is a problem.
What he did was break one rule by not putting forth his best effort to win. And if it can be proven that he willfully led interference for his stablemate to have a better chance, he broke another rule.
These rules are very clear and very simple. And they are put in place to protect the public. Not other trainers. The public. These are well known to every jockey and trainer that has a license. Hell, one of those rules was on my trainers test in the 70's for God's sake.
I am not a customer. You, and I will assume most other here are. I go to the track or wager maybe once or twice a year at the most, if at all. It is an opportunity to see high school friends and reminisce about cutting class and going to Bowie and the old days.
Yet I am appalled at the actions taken in this race including the blinkers off of Restoring Hope that took place well after the entry, which is a rule violation and well after the betting started, which is another rule violation and you and I think others as well seem to have no cares about it at all presumably because you bet the winner?
Thankfully I have seen plenty of customers in here that are mad about it regardless of who they bet. That is really good to see.
You know folks, all these people that are Stewards and management at every track in the country are, are just ordinary people. They won't bite. And the majority of them would welcome a sit down with respectful customers that had real issues to discuss. All you have to do is walk up to them and start talking to them. Act classy, act respectful, and ask for a slot of time . You might be surprised at how many would say yes. I would hope that same would be true for the Jocks representative.There is one jock that represents each colony at each track. Same goes for trainers. Just ask.
And it probably won't amount to much. But it's a start. Without face to face dialog, all that will happen is we will all type like hell to try and feel a little better. But it solves nothing. It only lasts until the next post .
I feel for the customers. I always have. That's because before I was a horseman, I WAS a customer. And that was part of what made me unique on the backside. Before becoming a hot walker my knowledge of horses came from watching Mr. Ed.
When I first started at the track it took me 3 days to learn which end crapped.
By the way, it's true, horses do talk. Just not with words. It takes a long time to learn what they are saying but they talk a lot. Just have to learn how to listen. And the eyes and mouth of Restoring Hope were loud and clear to me. So were the relaxed, well within himself strides of Justify. That race was OVER when 1:13 and change went up.
Could you hear and see that Tom? I could.
But Stewards, management , jocks and trainers talk with words. And they are easy to understand. But unless someone tries, it won't happen.
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