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10-28-2017, 03:20 AM
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It does not. Natural selection drives evolution toward the superior. In the long run the inferior does not survive.
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10-28-2017, 03:51 AM
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Of course take me to a hospital and apply the best science to my situation, but that decision in itself does not preclude the acceptance of final causes, ...
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Final cause = purpose?
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10-28-2017, 10:13 AM
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That is circular reasoning. Fictitious people in a fictitious story witness a fictitious event therefore the story is true.  |
Methinks your line of reasoning above is a wee bit circular. 
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10-28-2017, 10:16 AM
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It does not. Natural selection drives evolution toward the superior. In the long run the inferior does not survive.
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"Superior" how and to what? And does natural selection know what is superior?
And I thought in the long run, the inferior doesn't survive due to survival of the fittest?
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10-28-2017, 10:23 AM
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And I predict they will never solve this "riddle". God's ways are truly past finding out.
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10-28-2017, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
It does not. Natural selection drives evolution toward the superior. In the long run the inferior does not survive.
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You like to create fictitious accounts. You want us to believe natural selection acts with intention
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10-28-2017, 01:58 PM
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And I predict they will never solve this "riddle". God's ways are truly past finding out.
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And I predict they will. Science is very good at solving this kind of riddle. A century ago scientists were baffled when some experiments revealed that light is a wave and other experiments revealed it to be a stream of particles. Quantum theory resolved the issue. That will happen again.
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10-28-2017, 02:00 PM
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Of course not. What gave you that idea?
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10-28-2017, 02:01 PM
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And I predict they will. Science is very good at solving this kind of riddle. A century ago scientists were baffled when some experiments revealed that light is a wave and other experiments revealed it to be a stream of particles. Quantum theory resolved the issue. That will happen again.
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In other words you have hope based on faith.
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10-28-2017, 02:02 PM
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Of course not. What gave you that idea?
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Your statement I commented upon. Your obtuse act is tiring.
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10-28-2017, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
And I predict they will. Science is very good at solving this kind of riddle. A century ago scientists were baffled when some experiments revealed that light is a wave and other experiments revealed it to be a stream of particles. Quantum theory resolved the issue. That will happen again.
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Never let it be said that an atheist doesn't have megatons of faith...in man. Gotta fill that God void somehow, don't ya?
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10-28-2017, 02:07 PM
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And I predict they will. Science is very good at solving this kind of riddle. A century ago scientists were baffled when some experiments revealed that light is a wave and other experiments revealed it to be a stream of particles. Quantum theory resolved the issue. That will happen again.
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Man will never plumb all the mysterious depths to this universe. They are even beyond the understanding of your god Quantum.
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10-28-2017, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
And does natural selection know what is superior?
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In a sense it does. Information is passed from generation to generation through DNA. Inferior species fail to reproduce in sufficient numbers to remain viable and so their information is lost. Superior species do remain viable and the process repeats. It's a "try everything and only keep what works strategy." Very slow, requiring millions of years, but very effective.
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10-28-2017, 02:21 PM
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In other words you have hope based on faith.
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No. I have confidence based on experience.
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10-28-2017, 02:25 PM
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You like to create fictitious accounts. You want us to believe natural selection acts with intention.
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No. See #4303.
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