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Old 10-08-2018, 07:39 PM   #1
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Horse Racing at Penn and Parx

View From The Eighth Pole: Making The Public’s No. 1 Cause Our Cause

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/r...use-our-cause/

Anyone wagering on garbage tracks like Penn and Parx really should have their head examined.

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Old 10-08-2018, 10:53 PM   #2
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Just a few of the myriad of reasons contraction can't come soon enough. It also says a lot about the owners and trainers who race at these shitholes.
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The first clip is ridiculous but the second and third doesn't have much there IMO...
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The first clip is ridiculous but the second and third doesn't have much there IMO...
Look at the clip again. According to the article:

"The final incident is from Sunday, Oct. 7, in the second race at Parx Racing. Georgia Bonnet, a 4-year-old filly making her 23rd career start, was racing just off the rail at the top of the stretch and began to lug in. Jockey Tyrone Carter switched the whip to his left hand and, according to Equibase footnotes, “hit Georgia Bonnet repeatedly on the left side of her head through deep stretch.”
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The number one problem in the game is the jockeys, things like this happen at every track, these weren't even bad
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Just a few of the myriad of reasons contraction can't come soon enough. It also says a lot about the owners and trainers who race at these shitholes.

But a large part of what makes them "shitholes" are antiquated facilities and track designs. Arlington, Gulfstream and Laurel with their super-wide turf courses, allowing many different distances to be run, are the future. Parx and Penn National are the past.
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But a large part of what makes them "shitholes" are antiquated facilities and track designs. Arlington, Gulfstream and Laurel with their super-wide turf courses, allowing many different distances to be run, are the future. Parx and Penn National are the past.
Can you explain what the construction of a track's turf course has to do with jockeys repeatedly whipping horses in the face while they are being eased?
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Can you explain what the construction of a track's turf course has to do with jockeys repeatedly whipping horses in the face while they are being eased?

I never said it did. But outdated tracks create a depressing environment for everyone - patrons (i.e., bettors), horsemen, and jockeys. This observation has often been made about Aqueduct, which is nowhere near the worst offender in this regard.
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But a large part of what makes them "shitholes" are antiquated facilities and track designs. Arlington, Gulfstream and Laurel with their super-wide turf courses, allowing many different distances to be run, are the future. Parx and Penn National are the past.
This is nonsensical, sorry.
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I never said it did. But outdated tracks create a depressing environment for everyone - patrons (i.e., bettors), horsemen, and jockeys. This observation has often been made about Aqueduct, which is nowhere near the worst offender in this regard.
Dreary racetracks and narrow turf courses have nothing to do with jockeys mistreating horses. Nothing.
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Anybody know if disciplinary action has been taken by the stewards or the Pennsylvania Racing Commission?

Have any of the riders involved been suspended or fined?



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Parx puts out some good betting races pretty consistently.I have not done well there overall but thats my problem.
The cards at Penn are often bad....there are a lot of horses there that seem to be in a zombie-like state,but I have had better luck there and do not see it (or Parx) as a bad track to play at all like many other seem to do.
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But a large part of what makes them "shitholes" are antiquated facilities and track designs. Arlington, Gulfstream and Laurel with their super-wide turf courses, allowing many different distances to be run, are the future. Parx and Penn National are the past.
Completely agree with what you said. There are other reasons why they are shitholes, but your assessment is spot on.
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Dreary racetracks and narrow turf courses have nothing to do with jockeys mistreating horses. Nothing.
FL, Pen ard P{RX are my best tracks to play.

But any jock who whip a horse in the face should never be allowed to ride again.

That is inexcusable.

And any vet who lets a horse fall down and then race should lose his license.
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This is what I tried to post in another thread before about whipping.
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