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10-05-2022, 11:35 PM
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Now this should be a good race
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10-05-2022, 11:52 PM
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thats good cause the grade 1 first lady on turf is the exact opposite.
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10-06-2022, 08:22 AM
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thats good cause the grade 1 first lady on turf is the exact opposite.
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Always something to complain about.
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10-06-2022, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by the little guy
Always something to complain about.
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it was a statement more than a complaint.
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10-06-2022, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
it was a statement more than a complaint.
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No, it's a ridiculous whine Greg. The first response to someone pointing out an incredibly interesting race is, essentially, yeah but it's counterpart sucks. I can get as negative as anyone but this is beyond the pale.
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10-06-2022, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
thats good cause the grade 1 first lady on turf is the exact opposite.
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Small and/or uncompetitive dirt stakes have been a problem in NY and CA for awhile, but when one guy has so many of the best turf horses in a category and can control how the race is run because he has half the field we have a new problem on grass. That's happened a few times. I can't think of a solution. At the least the right horses are in there at the top.
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10-06-2022, 12:21 PM
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They have too many of those stakes.
Most are nothing but go have a beer breaks.
Stakes used to be special, nowadays they are participation trophies for owners.
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10-06-2022, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by the little guy
No, it's a ridiculous whine Greg. The first response to someone pointing out an incredibly interesting race is, essentially, yeah but it's counterpart sucks. I can get as negative as anyone but this is beyond the pale.
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I will go flog myself to account for my sin.
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10-06-2022, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Small and/or uncompetitive dirt stakes have been a problem in NY and CA for awhile, but when one guy has so many of the best turf horses in a category and can control how the race is run because he has half the field we have a new problem on grass. That's happened a few times. I can't think of a solution. At the least the right horses are in there at the top.
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too many horses consolidated into too few barns. (yes andy that is a whine)!
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10-06-2022, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
They have too many of those stakes.
Most are nothing but go have a beer breaks.
Stakes used to be special, nowadays they are participation trophies for owners.
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But they don't in the First Lady division. There are three Grade 1 races restricted to Fillies and Mares at one mile on turf all year....the Just a Game, this race, and the Matriarch. People can complain all they want about Chad Brown but of course he has an advantage if nobody runs against him. As it turns out, this year he has an embarrassment of riches in that division. But, people allowing themselves to be scared off only makes it easier for his horses.
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10-06-2022, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
I will go flog myself to account for my sin.
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Doesn't the Bible say you shouldn't do that? 
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10-06-2022, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by the little guy
But they don't in the First Lady division. There are three Grade 1 races restricted to Fillies and Mares at one mile on turf all year....the Just a Game, this race, and the Matriarch. People can complain all they want about Chad Brown but of course he has an advantage if nobody runs against him. As it turns out, this year he has an embarrassment of riches in that division. But, people allowing themselves to be scared off only makes it easier for his horses.
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I was replying to Classhandicapper's comment, "Small and/or uncompetitive dirt stakes have been a problem in NY and CA for awhile,"
I don't care about turf stakes, I seldom play them. About the onlt timeI do is if I see "the other" Chad Brown has a logical horse at good odds. I don't bother even looking at most turf races.
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10-06-2022, 02:57 PM
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Well played Onan 
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10-06-2022, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
I was replying to Classhandicapper's comment, "Small and/or uncompetitive dirt stakes have been a problem in NY and CA for awhile,"
I don't care about turf stakes, I seldom play them. About the onlt timeI do is if I see "the other" Chad Brown has a logical horse at good odds. I don't bother even looking at most turf races.
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Gotcha. I don't read his posts:-)
There are too many dirt opportunities. I agree.
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10-06-2022, 05:12 PM
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Just another Facist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
I was replying to Classhandicapper's comment, "Small and/or uncompetitive dirt stakes have been a problem in NY and CA for awhile,"
I don't care about turf stakes, I seldom play them. About the onlt timeI do is if I see "the other" Chad Brown has a logical horse at good odds. I don't bother even looking at most turf races.
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I know you used to play them. Hell, you and JimG taught me how to play em about 20 years ago. 
This race got my wife and I actually talking how we could work out me spending a few days at Keeneland like I used to do.
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