Climate Change

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

Tell that to the environment.

It means nothing.
if 10 people drop a 1,000 pound rock on your head, would it be worse than one person dropping a 1,000 pound rock on your head?

Incoherent as usual. Not at all applicable to understanding entire countries trying to control emissions where statistical averages are regularly used in calculations. As they are in most sciences you obviously know nothing about

Maybe you should consult both of your Bens

[Tom]

At least you spelled it right this time.
Average mean nothing - TOTALs are all that matter.
You have a atmosphere and X amount of CO2 in it.
It matters the TOTAL CO2, NOT the average or per capita.

IF we are the only ones who control it, then our efforts are wasted because x-US is STILL there, no m matter how many people contributed to the X.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

At least you spelled it right this time.
Average mean nothing - TOTALs are all that matter.
You have a atmosphere and X amount of CO2 in it.
It matters the TOTAL CO2, NOT the average or per capita.

IF we are the only ones who control it, then our efforts are wasted because x-US is STILL there, no m matter how many people contributed to the X.

What happens when more people drop lighter weights than fewer people dropping heavier weights when those fewer wasteful people are more boastful about how swell their shit smells and less likely to clean up their mess saying no point doing anything 'cause the other guy is the slob.

Greater Per capita ignorance means change per ignorant citizen is a greater burden as their smug bullshitting and being proudly wrong about climate change interferes with changing their attitudes.

Like you denying carbon has anything to do with climate change. A farmer in China mat go out and use wind or solar sources without claiming there is no point in using alternatives.

You have made up your closed mind.

[incoming]

Originally Posted by hcap

What happens when more people drop lighter weights than fewer people dropping heavier weights when those fewer wasteful people are more boastful about how swell their shit smells and less likely to clean up their mess saying no point doing anything 'cause the other guy is the slob.

Greater Per capita ignorance means change per ignorant citizen is a greater burden as their smug bullshitting and being proudly wrong about climate change interferes with changing their attitudes.

Like you denying carbon has anything to do with climate change. A farmer in China mat go out and use wind or solar sources without claiming there is no point in using alternatives.

You have made up your closed mind.

Curious.....Were you an architect or a tradesman?

[davew]

why does your climate change god AL GORE, have more than a 100 times more carbon footprint than we do? Is it so he can fly around the world telling everyone the sky is filling with carbon dioxide?

Why do all these concerned world leaders flock to annual meetings to propose new climate accords. Have they never heard of tele-conferencing?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by incoming

Curious.....Were you an architect or a tradesman?

Why?

[incoming]

Originally Posted by hcap

Why?

Never mind....you answered my question......completely!!

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

Average mean nothing - TOTALs are all that matter.
You have a atmosphere and X amount of CO2 in it.
It matters the TOTAL CO2, NOT the average or per capita.

IF we are the only ones who control it, then our efforts are wasted because x-US is STILL there, no m matter how many people contributed to the X.

Your premise of we do not have to do anything because the other guy is worse than we are is flawed because

1)The population of China and the US shows us that populaation is a powerful contributing factor in level of emissions of each. Which is why Per capita is an important indicator of the problem

2)China in many ways equals or surpasses the U.S. in efforts to control CO2

3)More importantly pointing to someone else "being worse" is just an excuse and no way to deal with ones own mess.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by davew

why does your climate change god AL GORE, have more than a 100 times more carbon footprint than we do? Is it so he can fly around the world telling everyone the sky is filling with carbon dioxide?

Why do all these concerned world leaders flock to annual meetings to propose new climate accords. Have they never heard of tele-conferencing?

I did read that his mansion was consuming 20 times the energy than a typical home in the area he lived. He only added solar panels to the home after getting negative press about his hypocrisies when it comes to energy usage. Even then the solar panels generate only 5% of the home's power needs.
He uses enough electricity to heat his pool to power six typical homes. What I find strange is all the global warming alarmists I know have no issue with Al Gore's hypocrisy.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I did read that his mansion was consuming 20 times the energy than a typical home in the area he lived. He only added solar panels to the home after getting negative press about his hypocrisies when it comes to energy usage. Even then the solar panels generate only 5% of the home's power needs.
He uses enough electricity to heat his pool to power six typical homes. What I find strange is all the global warming alarmists I know have no issue with Al Gore's hypocrisy.

Al Gore may be a hypocrite. If we were to list every politician who does not act consistent with his beliefs, we would have a very long list.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I did read that his mansion was consuming 20 times the energy than a typical home in the area he lived. He only added solar panels to the home after getting negative press about his hypocrisies when it comes to energy usage. Even then the solar panels generate only 5% of the home's power needs.
He uses enough electricity to heat his pool to power six typical homes. What I find strange is all the global warming alarmists I know have no issue with Al Gore's hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by hcap

Al Gore may be a hypocrite. If we were to list every politician who does not act consistent with his beliefs, we would have a very long list.

Al Gore is a hypocrite. His case of hypocrisy discredits what he is preaching over and above the actions of a typical hypocrite. He isn't like a politician preaching family values who cheats on his wife, he is claiming not following what he preaches is going to lead to irreversible wide spread death, destruction and doom. If he predicts a human behavior is going to contribute to the end of the world why is he going overboard to contribute to the demise, if he really believed in what he preaches?


Al Gore is like one of those phony TV evangelist faith healers who laughs all the way to the bank. He is the Peter Poppoff of politicians.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Al Gore is a hypocrite. His case of hypocrisy discredits what he is preaching over and above the actions of a typical hypocrite. He isn't like a politician preaching family values who cheats on his wife, he is claiming not following what he preaches is going to lead to irreversible wide spread death, destruction and doom. If he predicts a human behavior is going to contribute to the end of the world why is he going overboard to contribute to the demise, if he really believed in what he preaches?


Al Gore is like one of those phony TV evangelist faith healers who laughs all the way to the bank. He is the Peter Poppoff of politicians.

Whether or not Gore is a hypocrite is not a proof or disproof for human induced climate change.

Argue science. Do not use the logical fallacy of an Ad hominem specious attacks on someone who is only on the periphery of the science.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by hcap

Whether or not Gore is a hypocrite is not a proof or disproof for human induced climate change.

Argue science. Do not use the logical fallacy of an Ad hominem specious attacks on someone who is only on the periphery of the science.

One cannot have a logical argument with a segment of society that takes hypothetical theories as facts. The climate change alarmists fit that to a tee.
They are never wrong in their own eyes even when their predictions miss the mark by a country mile. All I hear for missed predictions of weather and climate are excuses, excuses and more excuses. Why don't they all admit it is nothing but guesswork.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by incoming

Curious.....Were you an architect or a tradesman?

I think he was a transportation engineer.

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[hcap]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

One cannot have a logical argument with a segment of society that takes hypothetical theories as facts. The climate change alarmists fit that to a tee.
They are never wrong in their own eyes even when their predictions miss the mark by a country mile. All I hear for missed predictions of weather and climate are excuses, excuses and more excuses. Why don't they all admit it is nothing but guesswork.

You can not support your suppositions that climate change is hypothetical. Nor can you use another Ad hominem specious attack on so-called "alarmists".

Man you and Tom should study science or study up on the mainstream scientific consensus.

When you gents can demonstrate the mainstream science of climate change wrong, or the consensus of 97% of the world's climate scientists wrong, I'll be back.

I will not accept more conspiracy theories that liberals and dems manipulate the data.