Sarah Sanders asked to leave restaurant last night cuz she works for Trump

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by davew

The artist just refused to adorn a wedding cake for them and was willing to supply other things.

Exactly. He did not want to become part of or participate in their celebration by designing and making the cake. And understandably so.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing

Even if it is discrimination it is apparently allowed in privately owned businesses.

Not philosophically that different than the cake guy who wouldn't bake for the gay couple.

If I owned the restaurant I would have served her and not made a big deal about it. Only if the situation became dangerous or uncontrollable would I intervene.

Not even remotely similar.
Denial of any service is not denying serving something offensive.
What if Obama came in and order roast dog with mushrooms?
The owner would be right to deny him his family dish, but would offer him something else.

Denying service based on political beliefs is 100% wrong no matter which side does it.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Nothing like a voice of reason......El Rushbo

How is that likely to happen anyway?

We already had a republican shot while playing baseball.
We already had Trump supporters attacked during the campaign, while being PAID by the left.

What contact do you have with the real world?

[Tom]

If a person feels that his religious or political affiliations influence his business judgement, then he should perhaps avoid going into business to begin with...because running a business is hard enough in today's economic climate. The venture certainly doesn't need any further complications.

So every newsstand should be willing to had porn on the shelves?

People should put aside their values as a prerequisite of doing business?

[Tom]

The brainless bitch, Wacky Maxy Watters is on the bandwagon now, instigating more in-your-face leftist BS.

So let's be honest here, my left-leaning brethren, if some business refused to serve MAXINE, you would ALL be lining up yelling RACIST! RACIST!

And you know you would.

So let me be the first -

AMERICA! Stand up and be heard!
Deny Maxine Waters service everywhere!
Show your disapproval of her stupidity and support of the the Kenyan Kriminal.
DENY Maxine access to everything!

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Whatever the reason was that led the baker to refuse service to the gay customers...it was still "bad business", IMO. Going into business is a very risky endeavor...and the risk multiplies further when you bring religious or political proclivities into your operation. I don't care if it's a Greek refusing a Turk, an Arab refusing a Jew, a Christian refusing a gay...or a liberal refusing Sarah Sanders; even if the refusing businessman has a "moral" leg to stand on...he is still committing a grave business error, which can easily cost him his business life.

If a person feels that his religious or political affiliations influence his business judgement, then he should perhaps avoid going into business to begin with...because running a business is hard enough in today's economic climate. The venture certainly doesn't need any further complications.

"Grave business error"!??? What in the world are you talking about? Grave business error because he turned down one customer as a matter of conscience? Seriously?

I love Tom's analogy that he put forth. If you're a restauranteur and some one walked into your joint and ordered BBQ cat, would you serve that to him? And if you tried to offer something that was truly on the menu but he insisted that he wanted one of the cats that hang out at the back of your joint, would you serve him?

Just because a Christian is also a businessman, doesn't mean that he must park his Christian Faith at the front door and forget he's a disciple of Christ. And even IF...even IF it came down to costing the Christian his business, a devout, pious believer would count that loss as nothing compared to gaining Christ. (After all, Christ made the supreme sacrifice for him, and a disciple is not greater than his Master!) What you're advocating (albeit unwittingly) is for HYPOCRISY. The Christian businessman should not act in accordance with conscience or God's Word. It's okay for the Christian businessman to talk Christ to people, just don't walk the talk, i.e. live His life 24/7!

And all the examples you gave, save for the Christian and the homosexual are non sequiturs because moral behavior isn't the issue with ethnicity or race -- nor is it on par with Sarah being refused service. She did zip wrong. She was discriminated against simply because of her political ideology -- which as or right now is still lawful to adhere to or advocate for publicly or privately. (But that could change in the future.)

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Tom

So every newsstand should be willing to had porn on the shelves?

People should put aside their values as a prerequisite of doing business?

That's exactly what he's saying.

And here's the really interesting thing about that kind of left-wing extremist mentality that is happening right now in this 21st century. It's not new! A very similar kind of mentality prevailed during first century Christianity throughout the Roman empire. Back in "those good ol' days", business people and tradesmen didn't have unions -- but they had something similar called "guilds". And Christian tradesman were often ostracized severely for their faith and kicked out the guild when it became fashionable to persecute Christians, which is very similar to today's blackballing. Effectively, they were put out of business. They were not allowed to buy or sell (transact commerce) if they didn't have the "mark" or "number" of the Beast (Rev 13:17). And if I have my eschatology right, history will soon repeat itself.

[CincyHorseplayer]

Originally Posted by Tom

The brainless bitch, Wacky Maxy Watters is on the bandwagon now, instigating more in-your-face leftist BS.

So let's be honest here, my left-leaning brethren, if some business refused to serve MAXINE, you would ALL be lining up yelling RACIST! RACIST!

And you know you would.

So let me be the first -

AMERICA! Stand up and be heard!
Deny Maxine Waters service everywhere!
Show your disapproval of her stupidity and support of the the Kenyan Kriminal.
DENY Maxine access to everything!

I saw that. I'm 45 but in pretty good shape and can take a punch. This has gotten to the point where I'm ready to wear a shirt with Trump's face on it and has "Go f##k yourself" lettering and just blast people to the ground. I hate fights. I don't like hurting people at all. This stupid woman touting this and yes it is a black mentality, let's fight then.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Exactly. He did not want to become part of or participate in their celebration by designing and making the cake. And understandably so.

I would bet you any amount and lay odds that if a Muslim baker refused to bake a homosexual wedding cake the left would not make a peep. It is strange how the left never mentions Muslim views on homosexuality in a negative light and their views are more extreme than Christians. What is even more strange as I have never heard a liberal give a good explanation why.

[FantasticDan]

Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer

I saw that. I'm 45 but in pretty good shape and can take a punch. This has gotten to the point where I'm ready to wear a shirt with Trump's face on it and has "Go f##k yourself" lettering and just blast people to the ground. I hate fights. I don't like hurting people at all. This stupid woman touting this and yes it is a black mentality, let's fight then.

What are you talking about?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

What are you talking about?

The left's hate speech?

[FantasticDan]

Originally Posted by boxcar

The left's hate speech?

He's going to put on a Trump shirt that says Go F--k Yourself and assault people because of left hate speech?

Huh?

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I would bet you any amount and lay odds that if a Muslim baker refused to bake a homosexual wedding cake the left would not make a peep.

Well, you would lose.
Probably business as usual there.

[CincyHorseplayer]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

He's going to put on a Trump shirt that says Go F--k Yourself and assault people because of left hate speech?

Huh?

When racist Watters is telling people to go interfere with people's personal live=absolutely. I think your beliefs are a personal thing and they don't need to be in everybody else's face. People are losing their mind to the point they want everything they believe in to be all up on you whether you like it or not. And I am saying if you get in my face with your BS you are yes getting beat to the god damn ground! Not you personally but if you have an elected official stopping just shy of saying the same thing yes be ready!

[FantasticDan]

Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer

When racist Watters is telling people to go interfere with people's personal live=absolutely. I think your beliefs are a personal thing and they don't need to be in everybody else's face. People are losing their mind to the point they want everything they believe in to be all up on you whether you like it or not. And I am saying if you get in my face with your BS you are yes getting beat to the god damn ground! Not you personally but if you have an elected official stopping just shy of saying the same thing yes be ready!

Waters said to harass members of the Trump admin, not you, or your neighbor. It was a stupid thing to say, and she's been rebuked. No reason to start polishing your brass knuckles