Hence

[yankeelpn]

I think Gunnevera will be closer to the pace this time.

[PowerUpPaynter]

Originally Posted by MNslappy

Hence, highest last race fig in the BRIS pps.


Hence 103
Irish War Cry 102
Always Dreaming 102
Irap 100
Girvin 99

Alot to like about this horse as a long shot but if he becomes the wise guy horse and odds drop below 15-1 not the greatest play.

[PowerUpPaynter]

http://www.horseracingnation.com/blo...the_Hence_123#


The buzz is going to build with this horse we arent going to gets anywhere close to the odds we would hope for

[MNslappy]

True, I don't think we'll see 15-1. However with his numbers and where he ranks compared to the rest of the field, what are his actual fair odds? I can't wait to see what PA does with him, he's very very good at creating an odds line on these big races.

Isn't 7-1 or 8-1 or 10-1 pretty good value on a horse that's coming in with some of the highest figs in the race? Unless he's the 3-1 favorite or something ridiculous like that, I still think Hence is going to offer value when the gates open based on his numbers and where they rank against the rest of em.

[PowerUpPaynter]

I cant see him in the 10-1 range. sure would blow if he was

[Mc990]

Originally Posted by MNslappy

True, I don't think we'll see 15-1. However with his numbers and where he ranks compared to the rest of the field, what are his actual fair odds? I can't wait to see what PA does with him, he's very very good at creating an odds line on these big races.

Isn't 7-1 or 8-1 or 10-1 pretty good value on a horse that's coming in with some of the highest figs in the race? Unless he's the 3-1 favorite or something ridiculous like that, I still think Hence is going to offer value when the gates open based on his numbers and where they rank against the rest of em.

Listen, I like Hence but do you really believe there is value at 7-1? Is he better than 12.5% to win? No.

[PowerUpPaynter]

Hence's Sunland Beyer upgraded to a 97

[PowerUpPaynter]

Originally Posted by Mc990

Listen, I like Hence but do you really believe there is value at 7-1? Is he better than 12.5% to win? No.

7-1 will make me puke. I want 20-1 will settle for 15-1 anything less and im going out back to my kicking tree!

[Secondbest]

Anyone who picks up a form can see how Hence beat Irap and Conquest and how they ran since.Look at the love he's getting here.I wouldn't be shocked if he was third choice after Always Dreaming and Classic Empire

[PowerUpPaynter]

Originally Posted by Secondbest

Anyone who picks up a form can see how Hence beat Irap and Conquest and how they ran since.Look at the love he's getting here.I wouldn't be shocked if he was third choice after Always Dreaming and Classic Empire

thats just annoying... he does not deserve to be any less than 12-1.

Got to figure Always Dreaming, Classic Empire, Irish War Cry, Gunnevera, and probably McCraken go off at lower odds. In a 20 horse field your only likely to have so many under 10-1.

[Mc990]

Originally Posted by Secondbest

Anyone who picks up a form can see how Hence beat Irap and Conquest and how they ran since.Look at the love he's getting here.I wouldn't be shocked if he was third choice after Always Dreaming and Classic Empire

He has to be longer than AD, CE, IWC, McCk, PJ and Gunn... We'l see from there

[Secondbest]

Originally Posted by Mc990

He has to be longer than AD, CE, IWC, McCk, PJ and Gunn... We'l see from there

Don't be so sure. I hope I'm wrong but like you said we'll see.

[Immortal6]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

7-1 will make me puke. I want 20-1 will settle for 15-1 anything less and im going out back to my kicking tree!

If you are really looking for 20-1 and want to bet him to win I would take a gander at some sports wagering sites. He is currently at 22-1 odds on the book I use. Thinking I'll throw $20 on him and lock him down at what I would consider a great price.

[PowerUpPaynter]

Florent Geroux will ride Hence.

[Senditin]

Looks like Hence is a sure play for top 3 positions in the Kentucky Derby especially with Geroux on board. Seems Hence will be an underlay at 8-1 though. Smart money will be on tote.