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Old 01-21-2008, 12:43 PM   #16
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Old 01-21-2008, 12:57 PM   #17
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Finger Lakes shipper.

Was it Florida Downs back then?
LOL Tom!!!

Here’s a link to their illustrious history…

http://www.tampabaydowns.com/documen...ediaguide3.pdf

Dates of note;

  • 1966: renamed Florida Downs (Formerly Sunshine Park)
  • 1980: renamed Tampa Bay Downs.
And a personal favorite date that Kenny Mayne’s always refers too…
  • 1943: The Army converted the barns to barracks and the track to a Jungle Warfare Training Center!
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:46 PM   #18
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I personally love Tampa....good to see they treat McSchell good as well!
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Old 01-21-2008, 06:10 PM   #19
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The great thing about Tampa is the type of races that are in the condition book...Every type of horse gets a fair chance to run as long as you enter and know how to read the book properly.GP is looking for the creme of the crop and yet dont give many horse chances that do have conditions,Then there is always the chance of the race not going.At Tampa the large fields give you a chance to claim and get the horse. At GP,If a horse is hot in a race ,You always have to shake for the claim..The purses for the claiming races at Tamp are killing the horses for the cheaper claimers at GP as they are going to Tampa because they get in and have a chance to run. No owner wants to pay a day rate and have to wait 3 weeks to run...Geeze Tampa is just what my weekend warriors need!!!
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Old 01-22-2008, 05:36 AM   #20
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Tampa Bay Downs

No one seems to want to volunteer an answer to my question about who's stonewalling PTC from getting the Tampa Bay Downs signal. It seems either the horsemen and/or track management have hidden agendas. Oh well...that's okay...if I want to bet the Tampa Bay races, I'll find an offshore racebook that offers rebates and bet through them. Then the Tampa Bay track and horsemen won't receive any benefits from my bets.
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Old 01-22-2008, 05:43 AM   #21
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...i remember some fallout from TBD a few years ago that they wouldn't deal with rebate shops....same time that Oaklawn was doing same thing...
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Old 01-22-2008, 05:59 AM   #22
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...i remember some fallout from TBD a few years ago that they wouldn't deal with rebate shops....same time that Oaklawn was doing same thing...
I wonder if that was onshore rebate shops? I've exchanged emails with some racetrack and/or horsemen association executive types. Some of them use the flimsy excuse that rebates give some horseplayers an unfair advantage. What a bunch of baloney, in my opinion! Next they'll be saying that they don't want to do business with those horseplayers that are using the most expensive types of handicapping software, because they also have an unfair advantage over their regular customers who can't afford to use such software.
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:46 AM   #23
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Berube won't let in a rebate shop. He is pretty strong on that.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:36 AM   #24
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the ST Kitts operation heralded the end of some tracks dealings with rebate shops
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:01 PM   #25
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As of this meet, Pick 4 takeout dropped from 25% to 20%; Pick 3 from 21% to 20%; and win/place/show from 18% to 17.5%.

Tampa's a great track to bet. One of the biggest racing success stories in recent years---the handle seems to grow each season.
trifectas and superfectas are nearly 26% however. No thanks!
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:59 PM   #26
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The great thing about Tampa is the type of races that are in the condition book...Every type of horse gets a fair chance to run as long as you enter and know how to read the book properly.GP is looking for the creme of the crop and yet dont give many horse chances that do have conditions,Then there is always the chance of the race not going.At Tampa the large fields give you a chance to claim and get the horse. At GP,If a horse is hot in a race ,You always have to shake for the claim..The purses for the claiming races at Tamp are killing the horses for the cheaper claimers at GP as they are going to Tampa because they get in and have a chance to run. No owner wants to pay a day rate and have to wait 3 weeks to run...Geeze Tampa is just what my weekend warriors need!!!
Good luck with Atlas Peak tomorrow, I think he can win it.
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Old 01-22-2008, 06:09 PM   #27
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trifectas and superfectas are nearly 26% however. No thanks!
If some the highbrow, racetrack and/or horsemen association executives think giving rebates to bettors gives them an unfair advantage, they should clean up their own backyard first when it comes to 'unfair advantages' in their favor. Racetracks are famous for some things 'unfair' to bettors...a couple of examples...25 % + takeouts on 3 to 6 horse gimmick bets at many U.S.A. and Canadian tracks, and dime breakage at most U.S.A. tracks.

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Old 01-22-2008, 06:43 PM   #28
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Good luck with Atlas Peak tomorrow, I think he can win it.
Let's Hope !!!!
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:16 PM   #29
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If some the highbrow, racetrack and/or horsemen association executives think giving rebates to bettors gives them an unfair advantage, they should clean up their own backyard first when it comes to 'unfair advantages' in their favor. Racetracks are famous for some things 'unfair' to bettors...a couple of examples...25 % + takeouts on 3 to 6 horse gimmick bets at many U.S.A. and Canadian tracks, and dime breakage at most U.S.A. tracks.
At least they dropped the takeout. Unlike most tracks, they're moving in the right direction, not the wrong one.
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