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01-21-2008, 12:43 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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That too.
Lots of aliases.
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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01-21-2008, 12:57 PM
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Easy Goer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tampa,Florida
Posts: 3,440
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Dan,
Finger Lakes shipper.
Was it Florida Downs back then?
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LOL Tom!!!
Here’s a link to their illustrious history…
http://www.tampabaydowns.com/documen...ediaguide3.pdf
Dates of note;
- 1966: renamed Florida Downs (Formerly Sunshine Park)
- 1980: renamed Tampa Bay Downs.
And a personal favorite date that Kenny Mayne’s always refers too…
- 1943: The Army converted the barns to barracks and the track to a Jungle Warfare Training Center!
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01-21-2008, 01:46 PM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 26,318
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I personally love Tampa....good to see they treat McSchell good as well!
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We agree 100%
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01-21-2008, 06:10 PM
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In Front
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hollywood Florida
Posts: 2,735
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The great thing about Tampa is the type of races that are in the condition book...Every type of horse gets a fair chance to run as long as you enter and know how to read the book properly.GP is looking for the creme of the crop and yet dont give many horse chances that do have conditions,Then there is always the chance of the race not going.At Tampa the large fields give you a chance to claim and get the horse. At GP,If a horse is hot in a race ,You always have to shake for the claim..The purses for the claiming races at Tamp are killing the horses for the cheaper claimers at GP as they are going to Tampa because they get in and have a chance to run. No owner wants to pay a day rate and have to wait 3 weeks to run...Geeze Tampa is just what my weekend warriors need!!!
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01-22-2008, 05:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 2,412
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Tampa Bay Downs
No one seems to want to volunteer an answer to my question about who's stonewalling PTC from getting the Tampa Bay Downs signal. It seems either the horsemen and/or track management have hidden agendas. Oh well...that's okay...if I want to bet the Tampa Bay races, I'll find an offshore racebook that offers rebates and bet through them. Then the Tampa Bay track and horsemen won't receive any benefits from my bets.
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01-22-2008, 05:43 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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...i remember some fallout from TBD a few years ago that they wouldn't deal with rebate shops....same time that Oaklawn was doing same thing...
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01-22-2008, 05:59 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phatbastard
...i remember some fallout from TBD a few years ago that they wouldn't deal with rebate shops....same time that Oaklawn was doing same thing...
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I wonder if that was onshore rebate shops? I've exchanged emails with some racetrack and/or horsemen association executive types. Some of them use the flimsy excuse that rebates give some horseplayers an unfair advantage. What a bunch of baloney, in my opinion! Next they'll be saying that they don't want to do business with those horseplayers that are using the most expensive types of handicapping software, because they also have an unfair advantage over their regular customers who can't afford to use such software.
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01-22-2008, 08:46 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Berube won't let in a rebate shop. He is pretty strong on that.
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01-22-2008, 10:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 328
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the ST Kitts operation heralded the end of some tracks dealings with rebate shops
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01-22-2008, 12:01 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,044
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jma
http://tampaturf.blogspot.com/2007/1...-for-this.html
As of this meet, Pick 4 takeout dropped from 25% to 20%; Pick 3 from 21% to 20%; and win/place/show from 18% to 17.5%.
Tampa's a great track to bet. One of the biggest racing success stories in recent years---the handle seems to grow each season.
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trifectas and superfectas are nearly 26% however. No thanks!
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01-22-2008, 01:59 PM
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Unreconstructed
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Appalachia
Posts: 6,646
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Quote:
Originally Posted by McSchell_Racing
The great thing about Tampa is the type of races that are in the condition book...Every type of horse gets a fair chance to run as long as you enter and know how to read the book properly.GP is looking for the creme of the crop and yet dont give many horse chances that do have conditions,Then there is always the chance of the race not going.At Tampa the large fields give you a chance to claim and get the horse. At GP,If a horse is hot in a race ,You always have to shake for the claim..The purses for the claiming races at Tamp are killing the horses for the cheaper claimers at GP as they are going to Tampa because they get in and have a chance to run. No owner wants to pay a day rate and have to wait 3 weeks to run...Geeze Tampa is just what my weekend warriors need!!!
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Good luck with Atlas Peak tomorrow, I think he can win it.
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01-22-2008, 06:09 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Tampa Bay Downs
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1st time lasix
trifectas and superfectas are nearly 26% however. No thanks!
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If some the highbrow, racetrack and/or horsemen association executives think giving rebates to bettors gives them an unfair advantage, they should clean up their own backyard first when it comes to 'unfair advantages' in their favor. Racetracks are famous for some things 'unfair' to bettors...a couple of examples...25 % + takeouts on 3 to 6 horse gimmick bets at many U.S.A. and Canadian tracks, and dime breakage at most U.S.A. tracks.
Last edited by trying2win; 01-22-2008 at 06:15 PM.
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01-22-2008, 06:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 602
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryG
Good luck with Atlas Peak tomorrow, I think he can win it.
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Let's Hope !!!!
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01-22-2008, 09:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trying2win
If some the highbrow, racetrack and/or horsemen association executives think giving rebates to bettors gives them an unfair advantage, they should clean up their own backyard first when it comes to 'unfair advantages' in their favor. Racetracks are famous for some things 'unfair' to bettors...a couple of examples...25 % + takeouts on 3 to 6 horse gimmick bets at many U.S.A. and Canadian tracks, and dime breakage at most U.S.A. tracks.
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At least they dropped the takeout. Unlike most tracks, they're moving in the right direction, not the wrong one.
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