Global Warming, Make That Climate Change Yeah

[classhandicapper]

Anyone know anything about this skeptic?

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[davew]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

Anyone know anything about this skeptic?

https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU

this is not fraud, just picking stuff to show the dimwit followers


humans are causing global warming, through selection fraud

[reckless]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

I see the name calling has been cut down since I last posted about it.

Another genius who said he was leaving but couldn't stay away. Thanks for keeping me in business for 20 years.

I guess you missed hcap bringing up the Jew card, without cause.

I know you didn't give a shit when hcap called me a mother****er; you openly and basically said it was OK.

And a few posts back he called me an asshole. Once again, you gave him a pass.

So, boychick, all of this says alot more about you than anyone else.

[xtb]

"Democratic presidential candidates attended the Iowa Polk County Democratic Party's annual steak fry on Saturday despite lecturing Americans about climate change and the alleged dangers of meat consumption.

In all, 17 of the 19 declared Democratic presidential candidates attended the event, where 10,500 steaks and 1,000 veggie burgers were grilled, according to CBS News."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/dems-g...t%20270%20days

[jimmyb]

During my quest to prove climate change, I thought it important to not only show charts and graphs, but actual photos from actual countries proving the dramatic changes going on in the world. Today I bring you Viet Nam.


Our Plane in Ho Chi Minh city.

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Greetings from some of the locals.

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Rice Paddy

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Whats a trip to Viet Nam without a trip to the jungle

jungle.jpg


We ran like hell.

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[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by reckless

I guess you missed hcap bringing up the Jew card, without cause.

I know you didn't give a shit when hcap called me a mother****er; you openly and basically said it was OK.

And a few posts back he called me an asshole. Once again, you gave him a pass.

So, boychick, all of this says alot more about you than anyone else.

Well, you are a mother****er and an asshole. So there's that.

You're done here.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

Anyone know anything about this skeptic?

https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU

There is one quote from Professor Ottmar Edenhofer, taken out of context, but the video is from a total fraud Steven Goddard and totally contradicts climate science.

Why do you AGW deniers post videos which can not be documented properly? All flash, no cash?



- Tony Heller (aka Steven Goddard), producer of the www.realclimatescience.com website is not a climate scientist, former or otherwise. His qualifications are a Bachelors degree in Geology, and a Masters in Electrical Engineering. So far as I can determine, he has never published a peer reviewed paper of any description. He is well known as a serial misreprenter of data, a prime example of of wrong idiocy popular on this thread.
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How Climate Science Deniers Manufacture Quotes to Convince You the United Nations Is One Big Socialist Plot
https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/11/0...socialist-plot

In the run-up to the COP23 (as in, the 23rd Conference of the Parties) climate talks taking place in Bonn, the Energy & Environment Legal Institute (EELI) used a quote from German climate policy expert Professor Ottmar Edenhofer of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research to suggest a sinister motive for the United Nations Paris climate deal.

EELI, which backs President Trump’s attempts to withdraw from the deal, wrote that Edenhofer had “affirmed” the Paris agreement, saying in a press release:

Ottmar Edenhofer, a recent co-chair of the U.N.s IPCC Working Group III, affirmed the scheme: “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy…We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy.”

If you search for the phrase “we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy,” you’ll find it repeated over and over on climate science denial blogs and sympathetic conservative media outlets. The link given by EELI goes to a page that also claims Edenhofer had “spilled the movement's dirty secret.”

So where did the quote come from, did Edenhofer say it, and was he really admitting a sinister plan to redistribute the world’s wealth?

The quote originates from this 2010 interview, written in German. Have you spotted the first problem?

How could Edenhofer have “affirmed the scheme” from the Paris accord, when the Paris deal didn’t even exist in 2010 (it was only signed in 2015)? It’s OK. You don’t need to answer. By the way, EELI's Christopher Horner wasn't so keen to answer questions about his coal funding in Paris.

A spokesperson for Edenhofer told me the quote was used “to imply that Prof. Edenhofer ‘admits’ that there is some kind of ‘hidden agenda’ behind climate policy.“

The spokesperson added: “Of course, this is not what he was saying. These quotes are taken out of context to be misused. The devaluation of fossil fuel reserves of course leads in a way to wealth redistribution — but this is rather a consequence of the necessity to stop using fossil fuels, and not the actual goal of climate policy.”
'Isn’t the only hope for this planet that the industrialized civilization collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?'

[davew]

I thought so, already debunked by hcap


all charts and data in that video have not been adjusted and from a climate skeptic, therefore false and not relevant

[hcap]

Originally Posted by davew

I thought so, already debunked by hcap


all charts and data in that video have not been adjusted and from a climate skeptic, therefore false and not relevant

None of Hellers data can be verified. He is a fraud. When any responsible poster posts a graph or char, the data source and source where the chart originated is needed.

That's how and why you deniers try to get away from the science and math needed to make your case, by posting un-sourced videos.

And I might add more than once. Maybe you gents should get together and compare stupid video notes, before posting each others worthless videos?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Well, you are a mother****er and an asshole. So there's that.

You're done here.

And I suppose that makes Hcap an angel by comparison, eh?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

There is one quote from Professor Ottmar Edenhofer, taken out of context, but the video is from a total fraud Steven Goddard and totally contradicts climate science.

Why do you AGW deniers post videos which can not be documented properly? All flash, no cash?



- Tony Heller (aka Steven Goddard), producer of the www.realclimatescience.com website is not a climate scientist, former or otherwise. His qualifications are a Bachelors degree in Geology, and a Masters in Electrical Engineering. So far as I can determine, he has never published a peer reviewed paper of any description. He is well known as a serial misreprenter of data, a prime example of of wrong idiocy popular on this thread.
.................................................. .............................................
How Climate Science Deniers Manufacture Quotes to Convince You the United Nations Is One Big Socialist Plot
https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/11/0...socialist-plot

In the run-up to the COP23 (as in, the 23rd Conference of the Parties) climate talks taking place in Bonn, the Energy & Environment Legal Institute (EELI) used a quote from German climate policy expert Professor Ottmar Edenhofer of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research to suggest a sinister motive for the United Nations Paris climate deal.

EELI, which backs President Trump’s attempts to withdraw from the deal, wrote that Edenhofer had “affirmed” the Paris agreement, saying in a press release:

Ottmar Edenhofer, a recent co-chair of the U.N.s IPCC Working Group III, affirmed the scheme: “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy…We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy.”

If you search for the phrase “we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy,” you’ll find it repeated over and over on climate science denial blogs and sympathetic conservative media outlets. The link given by EELI goes to a page that also claims Edenhofer had “spilled the movement's dirty secret.”

So where did the quote come from, did Edenhofer say it, and was he really admitting a sinister plan to redistribute the world’s wealth?

The quote originates from this 2010 interview, written in German. Have you spotted the first problem?

How could Edenhofer have “affirmed the scheme” from the Paris accord, when the Paris deal didn’t even exist in 2010 (it was only signed in 2015)? It’s OK. You don’t need to answer. By the way, EELI's Christopher Horner wasn't so keen to answer questions about his coal funding in Paris.

A spokesperson for Edenhofer told me the quote was used “to imply that Prof. Edenhofer ‘admits’ that there is some kind of ‘hidden agenda’ behind climate policy.“

The spokesperson added: “Of course, this is not what he was saying. These quotes are taken out of context to be misused. The devaluation of fossil fuel reserves of course leads in a way to wealth redistribution — but this is rather a consequence of the necessity to stop using fossil fuels, and not the actual goal of climate policy.”
'Isn’t the only hope for this planet that the industrialized civilization collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?'

So, says this guy! He glibly admits it's a "consequence necessity" out of one side of his mouth, then out of the other side, he says it's not the goal! Let him tell that to Russia and China.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by boxcar

And I suppose that makes Hcap an angel by comparison, eh?

Us Satan worshippers gotta look out for one another, dontcha know?

Now excuse me while I go service the Dark Lord.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Us Satan worshippers gotta look out for one another, dontcha know?

Now excuse me while I go service the Dark Lord.

"Service the Dark Lord", you say? I'd ask how you do that, but I also fear for the safety of my sensibilities. I mean...it could be something as inane as changing DL's oil, or it could be something much, much darker than that.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

None of Hellers data can be verified. He is a fraud. When any responsible poster posts a graph or char, the data source and source where the chart originated is needed.

That's how and why you deniers try to get away from the science and math needed to make your case, by posting un-sourced videos.

And I might add more than once. Maybe you gents should get together and compare stupid video notes, before posting each others worthless videos?

He told you where the source was. He exposed all the lies of omission by the AGW alarmists by revealing to us how they cherry-pick their data sets that would put their alarmist arguments in the best light possible.

And just who do you think is going to verify Heller's data -- the very people whose lies he has exposed? If they verified his data, would they not be giving affirmation to his claims!? Do you really think they're going to discredit themselves?

It's no wonder the AGW alarmists have kept silent and won't refute his claims.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

There is one quote from Professor Ottmar Edenhofer, taken out of context, but the video is from a total fraud Steven Goddard and totally contradicts climate science.

Why do you AGW deniers post videos which can not be documented properly? All flash, no cash?



- Tony Heller (aka Steven Goddard), producer of the www.realclimatescience.com website is not a climate scientist, former or otherwise. His qualifications are a Bachelors degree in Geology, and a Masters in Electrical Engineering. So far as I can determine, he has never published a peer reviewed paper of any description. He is well known as a serial misreprenter of data, a prime example of of wrong idiocy popular on this thread.
.................................................. .............................................
How Climate Science Deniers Manufacture Quotes to Convince You the United Nations Is One Big Socialist Plot
https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/11/0...socialist-plot

In the run-up to the COP23 (as in, the 23rd Conference of the Parties) climate talks taking place in Bonn, the Energy & Environment Legal Institute (EELI) used a quote from German climate policy expert Professor Ottmar Edenhofer of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research to suggest a sinister motive for the United Nations Paris climate deal.

EELI, which backs President Trump’s attempts to withdraw from the deal, wrote that Edenhofer had “affirmed” the Paris agreement, saying in a press release:

Ottmar Edenhofer, a recent co-chair of the U.N.s IPCC Working Group III, affirmed the scheme: “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy…We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy.”

If you search for the phrase “we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy,” you’ll find it repeated over and over on climate science denial blogs and sympathetic conservative media outlets. The link given by EELI goes to a page that also claims Edenhofer had “spilled the movement's dirty secret.”

So where did the quote come from, did Edenhofer say it, and was he really admitting a sinister plan to redistribute the world’s wealth?

The quote originates from this 2010 interview, written in German. Have you spotted the first problem?

How could Edenhofer have “affirmed the scheme” from the Paris accord, when the Paris deal didn’t even exist in 2010 (it was only signed in 2015)? It’s OK. You don’t need to answer. By the way, EELI's Christopher Horner wasn't so keen to answer questions about his coal funding in Paris.

A spokesperson for Edenhofer told me the quote was used “to imply that Prof. Edenhofer ‘admits’ that there is some kind of ‘hidden agenda’ behind climate policy.“

The spokesperson added: “Of course, this is not what he was saying. These quotes are taken out of context to be misused. The devaluation of fossil fuel reserves of course leads in a way to wealth redistribution — but this is rather a consequence of the necessity to stop using fossil fuels, and not the actual goal of climate policy.”
'Isn’t the only hope for this planet that the industrialized civilization collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?'

Another very strange thing about this third party apologist: Is the IPCC guy dead? If not, then why hasn't he come forward himself to deny the charges that he made those remarks? Shirley, he must know that this supposed lie about him is all over the web, yet, he hasn't personally denied it to the world? He needs third parties to do that for him?