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Old 09-01-2021, 04:17 PM   #9856
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When I was 17, I got a fake ID to go into the local bar.....

I'm now 63, and I got a fake Covid ID to go into the same bar....
Freakin LUSH...
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Old 09-01-2021, 04:21 PM   #9857
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Freakin LUSH...
Hell of a lot of lushes out there. I may have to do the same at 63.
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Old 09-01-2021, 06:26 PM   #9858
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I used to play some softball back in the day...like 30 years ago.

What makes a good softball pitcher? Hitting the corners? Painting the black?

The rules for the league we played in specified:

Each pitch must have an arc of between 6ft and 15ft.

Any pitch too high or too low shall be immediately called a ball by the ump.

There was a mat behind the plate.

Any pitch not called a ball for improper arc that touches any part of home plate or the mat is a called strike.

To speed up the game all batters start their at bats with a 1 and 1 count (1 ball and 1 strike.)

Any foul ball with two strikes is an out (same as a strikeout.)

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At first our team sucked. I think we went 1 and 11 that first season.

Our biggest problem was defense. As in we had none.

We had outfielders who thought they were studs. Two of them actually were with the bat but not in the field. All of them had arms and instead of hitting the cutoff man - were almost always trying to throw out runners at third or the plate - which they seldom did.

The result of not throwing to the cutoff man was that any batter who got a base hit had no reason to stop at first.

Once they saw where the throw was going they would just keep going and end up on second about 80% of the time - or third the other 20% of the time.

We didn't have an experienced pitcher. Whoever we put out there had no control and would walk 8 to 10 batters a game. It also seemed like a LOT of those walks came with the bases loaded and two outs.

Before the second season I started holding mandatory practices. If you wanted to play in the games you had to show up regularly for practice.

One thing I did during those practices was get the outfielders to buy into the idea of hitting the cutoff man every single time.

Those practices also gave the two guys who had alternated as pitchers last year a chance to work on their control without the kind of pressure you face in games.

We had six or seven practices leading up to that second season and it showed. If I recall correctly we were one game under 0.500 that year.

We had improved. But the one thing we lacked compared to the other teams we were playing against was an experienced pitcher.

During the off season I decided that pitcher was going to be me.

I went to a sporting goods store and bought about 30 softballs and an official mat.

I spent about an hour every Sunday morning down at the field where we played with a bucket of balls practicing.

It took several weeks but eventually I started to develop real control.

By the time we started practices for the next season I felt I was "there" and I let the team know what I'd been up to.

During that first practice I was dropping pitches out of the sky - one after another - 15 ft arc - onto the back of the mat.

Everybody, even our outfielders were shaking their heads and saying "Yeah, technically that pitch was a strike. But no way was it hittable."

That next season we won our league championship.

The season after that the league director bumped us up to the next higher level.

The season after that we won our second league championship in three years.

Over the 10 years I pitched I can't tell you how many times a batter would come to the plate with men on base - the first pitch would drop out of the sky, land on the mat, and the ump would call "Strike Two!"

I'd purposely drop the very next pitch out of the sky a good six to ten inches behind the mat. The batter would make this awkward overhead swing - get a piece of the ball - foul it off - and the ump would call "Foul Ball with two strikes. Batter is OUT!"

Looking back I'd say the ability to get an out when it counts is what makes a good softball pitcher.

Then there's the insane amount of beer we drank after the games.

Wish I was young enough to still be playing.



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Old 09-01-2021, 07:42 PM   #9859
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i don't know how true this is

https://abc7news.com/covid-immunity-...cted/10936598/
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Old 09-01-2021, 08:07 PM   #9860
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Great reporting. Nothing was mentioned as to the severity of the reinfections in the people with natural immunity. If they all had very minor cold symptoms would they still need to get vaccinated?
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Old 09-01-2021, 08:17 PM   #9861
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There are already hundreds of variants (maybe thousands). That's all irrelevant unless it's more contagious. Otherwise it just gets competed away.
This is what happens when you vaccinate into the teeth of a pandemic.

The virus mutates like crazy to try and survive the vaccine.

Well done, NOT-SCIENCE!
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Old 09-01-2021, 09:54 PM   #9862
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Alex Berenson on Substack goes into how the White House and CDC are coming up with their unvaccinated numbers --

Here we go again
You know how I know public health authorities are lying? Their own data:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/here-we-go-again

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In the last few weeks, politicians and senior public health officials have insisted over and over that unvaccinated Americans account for essentially ALL of the deaths of people from Covid.

At a White House press briefing on July 22, for example, Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said that “99.5 percent of Covid deaths and 97 percent of hospitalizations are [emphasis added] among the unvaccinated.”

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These are - how do I put this delicately? - big fat stinking lies. They are off by a factor of at least five, and probably 10 or more.



Let’s put aside that the way public health authorities define vaccinated is NOT the way most people think of being vaccinated. Had one shot of either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines? You’re not vaccinated. Had two? Still not vaccinated, not for two weeks.

In countries where health authorities are more honest, statistics on hospitalizations and deaths have three categories - “fully” vaccinated, “partially” vaccinated, and “unvaccinated.” Many cases fall in the middle category. In fact, data show that the vaccines can cause an increase in infections and deaths for up to two weeks after the first dose, possibly because they temporarily suppress immunity by recruiting so many white blood cells to the area of the injection.

The truth is that if we were treating vaccines like other drugs, we would include the “partially” vaccinated cases in the “vaccinated” category because they have occurred AFTER treatment has begun.

The United States does the opposite. When it reports statistics on vaccine hospitalizations or deaths, it ignores partly vaccinated people. They are lumped with those who have never received a dose as “unvaccinated.”

This trick is particularly galling now that the vaccine companies and the government have acknowledged the fact that the mRNA shots begin to lose their protective effect in a matter of months and that many people will need boosters soon.

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Old 09-02-2021, 02:38 AM   #9863
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Old 09-02-2021, 10:46 AM   #9864
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In a few weeks, this will be the UKs official policy:

●The delta variant can infect people already vaccinated
●Making herd immunity impossible to reach even with high vaccine uptake
●Anyone who is still unvaccinated will, at some point, meet the virus.
●We don't have anything that will stop transmission,
●the virus will throw up a new variant that is even better at infecting vaccinated individuals
●End free testing from Oct 11
●UK vaccination, prevented 60,000 deaths and 66,900 hospitalizations
●But never be enough to stop Covid from spreading
●The virus will affect everyone
●Winter wave inevitable
●if we continue to chase community testing and are worried about those results, we're going to end up in a situation where we're constantly boosting to try and deal with something which is not manageable
●It needs to be moving to clinically-driven testing
●If someone is unwell, they should be tested,
●but for their contacts, if they're not unwell then it makes sense for them to be in school and being educated

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Old 09-02-2021, 11:50 AM   #9865
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This is what happens when you vaccinate into the teeth of a pandemic.

The virus mutates like crazy to try and survive the vaccine.

Well done, NOT-SCIENCE!
Viruses can ONLY mutate if they have HOSTS...
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Old 09-02-2021, 12:14 PM   #9866
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I'm not entirely sure how they have an apples to apples comparison when they are using naturally infected people from 2020 and saying they got COVID again in May-June 2021.



People that got the vaccine didn't get it in 2020, so how is this a real comparison of natural infection and the vaccine?




It's also a super ignorant thing to report on August 9, 2021. July and August where total hotbeds for the virus and could very well be a time period where the virus blew through the vaccinated.
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Old 09-02-2021, 12:21 PM   #9867
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Viruses can ONLY mutate if they have HOSTS...

Well California has the highest vaccination rate in the country.


As of yesterday our 7 day average of new cases is 15,191, that matches the 7 day average from Feb 4th of this year.



It's also one of the on;y places to actually be tracking breakthrough cases, and 25-30% of the new cases right now are among the vaccinated.


My point? The virus is finding hosts, vaccinated or not.
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Old 09-02-2021, 12:49 PM   #9868
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Source: https://www.worldometers.info/corona...sa/california/

Daily New Cases in California and Daily New Deaths in California as of September 01, 2021 --

Is the sky really falling?

See the clickable thumbnails below and judge for yourself.


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Old 09-02-2021, 01:19 PM   #9869
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Source: https://www.worldometers.info/corona...sa/california/

Daily New Cases in California and Daily New Deaths in California as of September 01, 2021 --

Is the sky really falling?

See the clickable thumbnails below and judge for yourself.


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Just to be clear I never said the sky was falling.



My biggest issue at this point is that we have about 4 times as many COVID cases than we did a year ago, but it's not an election year so it's not a big deal.


History is going to put down that in the first 365 days of Biden's presidency there were more COVID cases than the last 365 days of Trump's presidency. This of course even though the Biden time period will include a vaccine that "works".
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Old 09-02-2021, 01:28 PM   #9870
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In a few weeks, this will be the UKs official policy:

●The delta variant can infect people already vaccinated
●Making herd immunity impossible to reach even with high vaccine uptake
●Anyone who is still unvaccinated will, at some point, meet the virus.
●We don't have anything that will stop transmission,
●the virus will throw up a new variant that is even better at infecting vaccinated individuals
●End free testing from Oct 11
●UK vaccination, prevented 60,000 deaths and 66,900 hospitalizations
●But never be enough to stop Covid from spreading
●The virus will affect everyone
●Winter wave inevitable
●if we continue to chase community testing and are worried about those results, we're going to end up in a situation where we're constantly boosting to try and deal with something which is not manageable
●It needs to be moving to clinically-driven testing
●If someone is unwell, they should be tested,
●but for their contacts, if they're not unwell then it makes sense for them to be in school and being educated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRb5hnTseU&t=616s
Imo --

The UK's shift in policy is a move in the right direction.

We would have been so much better off planet-wide -- economically, medically, socially, etc. -- had we been doing that from the beginning --

Vs. the way we dealt with the pandemic:

Lockdowns, forced closure of small businesses, churches, mosques, synagogues, forests, parks, recreation areas, etc.


Also --

At about the 3:30 mark in the video the following bullet points are made:
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● We don't have anything that will stop transmission.

● So I think we are in a situation where herd immunity is not a possibility.
I disagree with the second bullet point.

If we don't have a way to stop transmission:

Reaching Herd Immunity is a mathematical certainty.

Just not the way big pharma, big tech, and big government wanted us to get there.


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