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06-19-2018, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by highnote
That is just silly. Sacajawea was able to travel from St. Louis to the Pacific Ocean and back with a newborn. You're lucky to have been born a white male in a country with a great infrastructure that could provide you with an education and access to jobs. The same cannot be said of the people trying escape poverty, war, and crime. It sounds to me like they are so desperate to get away from what looks incredible hardship that they are risking their lives at a chance for a better life.
Have you ever had to go to sleep hungry or worry about being killed in a war zone or had to grow up in absolute poverty with no hope of a job or a secure future?
The lack of empathy for the plight of these desperate people is disappointing.
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Stick your white privilege straight up your white asshole.
And don't try and tell me you're not white. Only a white person could sound so silly. "Sacajawea" LULZ
They could have escaped war right next door in Mexico. Pretty sure there is no war going on in Mexico. Why didn't they stay there instead? Did Mexico threaten to separate them from their kids too if they tried to stay?
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 06-19-2018 at 12:52 AM.
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06-19-2018, 12:50 AM
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#362
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Originally Posted by highnote
I disagree. Nazi's are the low baseline with which every wrong and immoral act gets compared to. The closer a situation is to what the Nazi's did the worse it is, presumably.
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And my point is you're one ignorant SOB when it comes to Nazis. Because if you weren't so ignorant, you wouldn't be so stupid to try and make the comparison.
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06-19-2018, 12:53 AM
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#363
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Originally Posted by highnote
I disagree. Nazi's are the low baseline with which every wrong and immoral act gets compared to. The closer a situation is to what the Nazi's did the worse it is, presumably.
The book "Sophie's Choice" reminds me a lot of what is going on at the border -- separating children from their parents. Blame Trump's border policy for bringing up these memories.
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Off-topic trolling at its finest. Well, not really. We've been hurting for good trolls for a while now.
Time to bring back 46zilzal?
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06-19-2018, 12:55 AM
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#364
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Originally Posted by highnote
They may deserve to be separated from their kids, but their kids are INNOCENT and therefore do NOT deserve to be punished and abused by separating them from their parents.
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Talk about a chicken and egg circle...
Please sqaure that circle for us will you.
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06-19-2018, 12:58 AM
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#365
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,883
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
They could have escaped war right next door in Mexico. Pretty sure there is no war going on in Mexico. Why didn't they stay there instead? Did Mexico threaten to separate them from their kids too if they tried to stay?
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Man, are you clueless
http://res.dallasnews.com/interactives/migrantroute/
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06-19-2018, 01:07 AM
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#366
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Stick your white privilege straight up your white asshole.
And don't try and tell me you're not white. Only a white person could sound so silly. "Sacajawea" LULZ
They could have escaped war right next door in Mexico. Pretty sure there is no war going on in Mexico. Why didn't they stay there instead? Did Mexico threaten to separate them from their kids too if they tried to stay?
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I never said I wasn't white. But those migrant routes are apparently well traveled. Maybe it is like the underground railroad and the people are given help along the way?
The story at this link https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigra...-into-america/ talks about a rancher in Texas who set up a water station on his ranch to help immigrants. Although, it sounds like the immigrant's trip get much tougher once they get to the U.S.
You may not like to hear it or you may not want to believe it, but white males are born with a huge advantage whether you like it or not.
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06-19-2018, 01:19 AM
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#367
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Off-topic trolling at its finest. Well, not really. We've been hurting for good trolls for a while now.
Time to bring back 46zilzal?
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Not trolling. Just practicing the advice a Rabbi gave me when I was younger. I asked him what are some good charitable causes to pursue. He said take care of the children because they are the most vulnerable.
So that's what I'm doing here -- fighting for innocent children by speaking up when I see an injustice being done to them.
What is being done to those children is immoral and reprehensible.
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06-19-2018, 01:43 AM
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#368
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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WOW I'll admit I am just learning about the plight of these immigrants.
I guess I can kind of relate to their plight, although mine was not nearly as bad.
My mom was sick all through my high school years and died a week before I graduated. When I got out of school the Rust Belt economy was at the bottom. I was used to caring for myself because I had to go to work busing tables and pumping gas when I was 16 if I wanted to have any money. My parents didn't have it to give since everything went for my mom's cancer treatments. It sounds like a bad movie plot, but it's the truth. I was desperately poor and living on my own without any skills, but fortunately, I was able to get a lot of financial aid to go to college. I don't know how I ever did it on my own, but I did. I guess the alternative was to keep pumping gas. After graduation the economy was still terrible so I left my family and friends and traveled across the Applachian Mountains to NYC looking for opportunity. Lucky for me I am a U.S. citizen and white. Finding a job in New York was pretty easy, or maybe I got lucky. Finding a good paying job was hard, but when you're young you don't need much and you have plenty of time to learn a skill or a trade while on the job.
I definitely was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth but I was lucky enough to be born a Caucasian U.S. citizen.
I don't see any difference between what I did by immigrating from the midwest to NYC and what people from South America are doing by immigrating to the U.S. People want to work, make a living, and build a life. Everyone has the same basic needs.
The needs of children are even simpler. I don't think it is asking too much to allow children to remain with their parents while at the border. But feel free to disagree. I don't expect you to change your mind, but don't expect me to change mine, either. This is one issue that is non-negotiable to me.
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06-19-2018, 01:55 AM
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#369
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Exactly how the **** am *I* clueless. Reading that link you posted, it basically stated EVERYTHING I have stated here in recent posts.
EVERYTHING.
From the insanely dangerous conditions these parents are dragging their children through, to bypassing Mexico for the USA, which only extends the MORTAL DANGER these kids are in, right down to everything else.
It was basically a SLAM DUNK.
Thanks for posting it.
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06-19-2018, 01:59 AM
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#370
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by highnote
Not trolling. Just practicing the advice a Rabbi gave me when I was younger. I asked him what are some good charitable causes to pursue. He said take care of the children because they are the most vulnerable.
So that's what I'm doing here -- fighting for innocent children by speaking up when I see an injustice being done to them.
What is being done to those children is immoral and reprehensible.
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You SHOULD take care of children.
And there are PLENTY of needy children living right here as citizens of the USA. Maybe we should take care of all the starving and neglected children right here in the USA before we start worrying about taking care of all the other children in the world. Especially those being brought here illegally by selfish, abusive, neglectful parents.
God, reading about what they put these kids through trying to get to the USA is a horror story.
But you'll sit here and complain about how terrible it is for the kids ONCE THEY GET HERE?
Wow. What a bunch of turnip truck rubes you guys are.
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06-19-2018, 02:24 AM
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#371
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,648
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Quote:
Originally Posted by highnote
That is just silly. Sacajawea was able to travel from St. Louis to the Pacific Ocean and back with a newborn. You're lucky to have been born a white male in a country with a great infrastructure that could provide you with an education and access to jobs. The same cannot be said of the people trying escape poverty, war, and crime. It sounds to me like they are so desperate to get away from what looks incredible hardship that they are risking their lives at a chance for a better life.
Have you ever had to go to sleep hungry or worry about being killed in a war zone or had to grow up in absolute poverty with no hope of a job or a secure future?
The lack of empathy for the plight of these desperate people is disappointing.
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Maybe you could suggest to your congress people to make a new law that would allow progressive people such as yourself to adopt these families escaping hopelessness (who would then become your responsibility).
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06-19-2018, 03:19 AM
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#372
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,793
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Originally Posted by davew
Maybe you could suggest to your congress people to make a new law that would allow progressive people such as yourself to adopt these families escaping hopelessness (who would then become your responsibility).
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Yeah right.......
You’re killing me.
Only if you tie the crimes committed their “sponsor”
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06-19-2018, 04:03 AM
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#373
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Help...Help....the sky is falling. Once again The New Democrat Party has resurrected an old political debate that has been kicked down the road for at least a decade. They have completely forgotten about The Russians are Coming debacle that they started over a year ago. Of course, that tale is slowly coming to a close, most likely a few foot soldiers will get some jail time. detractions......detractions
If anyone is truly interested in the TRUE facts, it was covered in today's Sara Sanders press conference along with her guest DHS secretary, Nielsen. Let's see how many MSM outlets report the facts instead of 'fake news.'
One of the facts she trotted out, 10,000 of the 12,000 children that are now in DHS custody weren't accompanied by their parents. problems.....and more problems. All they had to do and completely solve the problem was enter at a port of entry instead of crossing the border illegally. These kids were sent here to disrupt, has nothing to do with asylum..... duh.
More at link: about 40 minutes
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06-19-2018, 04:41 AM
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#374
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 30,398
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Quote:
Originally Posted by incoming
If anyone is truly interested in the TRUE facts, it was covered in today's Sara Sanders press conference along with her guest DHS secretary, Nielsen. Let's see how many MSM outlets report the facts instead of 'fake news.'
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A very poor attempt at humor, let alone "TRUE facts"
However, facts and humor are actually available
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06-19-2018, 07:47 AM
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#375
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 5,597
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Quote:
Originally Posted by highnote
That is just silly. Sacajawea was able to travel from St. Louis to the Pacific Ocean and back with a newborn. You're lucky to have been born a white male in a country with a great infrastructure that could provide you with an education and access to jobs. The same cannot be said of the people trying escape poverty, war, and crime. It sounds to me like they are so desperate to get away from what looks incredible hardship that they are risking their lives at a chance for a better life.
Have you ever had to go to sleep hungry or worry about being killed in a war zone or had to grow up in absolute poverty with no hope of a job or a secure future?
The lack of empathy for the plight of these desperate people is disappointing.
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So as has been mentioned a few times, to YOU....
How many have you taken in so far??? I mean the way you are goiong on and on ranting, surely your morality has allowed you to take in a few....
Ohh wait, your NOT that moral are ya???
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