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11-18-2017, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by reckless
Before this story came out I would have bet it was Paul Ryan that was caught in his office with a man playing nice.
Just a gut feeling he's truly conflicted.
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Interesting. I don't get that vibe at all from Ryan. Lindsey Graham on the other hand...hmmm. Not that it matters.
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11-18-2017, 06:01 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Republican have been arrested before for groping men, but charges are usually dropped when it turn out they were only picking their pockets.
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11-19-2017, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by highnote
Unfortunately, dems don't have a monopoly on immorality:
This married bible-thumping Ohio republican politician is anti-lgbt but got caught having sex in his office with another man. What a dumbass lying hypocrite:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-lgbt...140200984.html
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Notice how no atheists are ever held to any moral standards? Only believers are.
Reading the article, he espoused heterosexual marriage, particularly for child-rearing. The evidence is overwhelming that children do best when raised by loving moms and dads. The evidence is overwhelming that the lack of fathers in children's lives has a negative impact on them. So can't someone who is gay feel that children are best raised by a mom and dad? If single people can intellectually reach that conclusion, despite wanting a child themselves, why can't gays also reach that conclusion? It seems some think that it's more important to move a political agenda instead of caring how it affects children.
The guy's real offense here is that he cheated on his wife, which he will have to deal with his wife over. I'm not going to hold him to lesser or greater standards than I do atheists, who are also supposed to behave in a moral and ethical manner.
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11-19-2017, 12:50 PM
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How true:
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Ann Coulter ✔ @AnnCoulter
Franken: “It was clearly intended to be funny but wasn’t.” Pretty much summarizes his whole career.
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11-19-2017, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
Notice how no atheists are ever held to any moral standards? Only believers are.
Reading the article, he espoused heterosexual marriage, particularly for child-rearing. The evidence is overwhelming that children do best when raised by loving moms and dads. The evidence is overwhelming that the lack of fathers in children's lives has a negative impact on them. So can't someone who is gay feel that children are best raised by a mom and dad? If single people can intellectually reach that conclusion, despite wanting a child themselves, why can't gays also reach that conclusion? It seems some think that it's more important to move a political agenda instead of caring how it affects children.
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Much of society now is spoiled and very self-centered. Special interest groups are affected even more than the general population. Gays want to adopt because they feel it's their basic right, with their own interest in mind, disregarding what's best for children.
If gays are allowed to adopt, the children should be old enough to decide for themselves if this is the lifestyle they wish to enter into.
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11-19-2017, 01:45 PM
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gelding
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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
Much of society now is spoiled and very self-centered. Special interest groups are affected even more than the general population. Gays want to adopt because they feel it's their basic right, with their own interest in mind, disregarding what's best for children.
If gays are allowed to adopt, the children should be old enough to decide for themselves if this is the lifestyle they wish to enter into.
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You do realize that gays are already "allowed" to adopt, right? There are tens of thousands of adopted children living in same-sex couple households right now.
I don't even know how to address the rest of your bigoted comments, they're so ridiculous.. basically what it comes down to is that you think it's not right to "corrupt" some poor innocent child with a same-sex household..
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11-19-2017, 02:10 PM
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Location: st louis
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
You do realize that gays are already "allowed" to adopt, right? There are tens of thousands of adopted children living in same-sex couple households right now.
I don't even know how to address the rest of your bigoted comments, they're so ridiculous.. basically what it comes down to is that you think it's not right to "corrupt" some poor innocent child with a same-sex household..
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Here you go again. It is an indisputable fact that a child does better with a mother and father compared to a single or same sex arrangement. Can you please stop calling people bigots, etc when their views do not align with yours.
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11-19-2017, 02:11 PM
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Location: Beaverdam Virginia
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
You do realize that gays are already "allowed" to adopt, right? There are tens of thousands of adopted children living in same-sex couple households right now.
I don't even know how to address the rest of your bigoted comments, they're so ridiculous.. basically what it comes down to is that you think it's not right to "corrupt" some poor innocent child with a same-sex household..
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Do you seriously think that a school age child won't have issues with peers when it is found out they have two mommys or two daddys at home? Pretty sure that child will have a lot more problems than one adopted by a straight couple. That is just using plain common sense, which cannot be used in the same sentence as liberal.
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11-19-2017, 02:53 PM
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by zico20
Here you go again. It is an indisputable fact that a child does better with a mother and father compared to a single or same sex arrangement.
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Show me some same-sex parent "facts" that prove this..
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11-19-2017, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
Do you seriously think that a school age child won't have issues with peers when it is found out they have two mommys or two daddys at home? Pretty sure that child will have a lot more problems than one adopted by a straight couple. That is just using plain common sense, which cannot be used in the same sentence as liberal.
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Depends where you live, in some places the teacher may be one of 'those' parents.
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11-19-2017, 02:57 PM
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
Do you seriously think that a school age child won't have issues with peers when it is found out they have two mommys or two daddys at home? Pretty sure that child will have a lot more problems than one adopted by a straight couple.
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So your point is that the kid will have "problems" because peers will tease him..
So, kids shouldn't get glasses.. or wear different clothes.. or have a haircut.. or a big nose.. or be short.. or really anything.. cuz we all know how kids tease..
But they certainly shouldn't be adopted by same-sex parents! OH THE HUMANITY
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11-19-2017, 03:37 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Washoe County, Nevada
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
Notice how no atheists are ever held to any moral standards? Only believers are.
Reading the article, he espoused heterosexual marriage, particularly for child-rearing. The evidence is overwhelming that children do best when raised by loving moms and dads. The evidence is overwhelming that the lack of fathers in children's lives has a negative impact on them. So can't someone who is gay feel that children are best raised by a mom and dad? If single people can intellectually reach that conclusion, despite wanting a child themselves, why can't gays also reach that conclusion? It seems some think that it's more important to move a political agenda instead of caring how it affects children.
The guy's real offense here is that he cheated on his wife, which he will have to deal with his wife over. I'm not going to hold him to lesser or greater standards than I do atheists, who are also supposed to behave in a moral and ethical manner.
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Atheists are held to the same moral standards as Christians. It’s not as if society shrugs when a 32yo atheist trolls malls looking for teenage girls.
The reaction is the same with the exception of the Christian Right which has a special carve out for themselves because, you know, they are constantly under attack by a godless society.
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11-19-2017, 05:41 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Beaverdam Virginia
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
So your point is that the kid will have "problems" because peers will tease him..
So, kids shouldn't get glasses.. or wear different clothes.. or have a haircut.. or a big nose.. or be short.. or really anything.. cuz we all know how kids tease..
But they certainly shouldn't be adopted by same-sex parents! OH THE HUMANITY
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I guess you pick the liberal agendas that you support while ignoring those that conflict with it, liberal hypocrisy at its finest. Are you unaware of how difficult and traumatic a liberal believes it is to be a teenager today and how that many of them are labeled with disorders and fed drugs? Are you unaware of so called bullying that has led to teenage suicides? Teens can't cope these days with bullying that generations decades ago would have been considered normal behavior, yet you want to saddle these delicate kids with a set of gay parents that will make them easy targets till they are adults. Even though you worship and praise sexual deviates, most people don't.
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11-19-2017, 06:04 PM
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Problems continue beyond the teen years.
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The study by sociology professor Paul Sullins found that “[a]t age 28, the adults raised by same-sex parents were at over twice the risk of depression as persons raised by man-woman parents.” In addition, there was an “elevated risk associated with imbalanced closeness and parental child abuse in family of origin; depression, suicidality, and anxiety at age 15; and stigma and obesity.”
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http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/06/...best-for-kids/
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11-19-2017, 06:09 PM
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gelding
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