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03-14-2022, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Lot of talk lately of the threat of Russia using chemical weapons in Ukraine.
My question is...why?
When was the last time Russia used chemical weapons on the battlefield?
Anyone?
The fact that this is making the rounds a lot lately means they are going to be used...whether Russia actually uses them or not...
Yeah, I'm cynical.
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4 years ago?
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/m...-2018-Watchdog
Trump missiled a Syrian airport chemical agents came from
https://www.thenationalnews.com/worl...rfield-1.89136
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03-14-2022, 11:12 AM
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#782
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Veteran
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Yeah, and before the PA history experts chime in, I know I was a cheerleader for the Iraq war back in 2003 and defended the Bush Administration...so spare me the hypocrite lecture.
People change.
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Are there any of them left?
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03-14-2022, 11:14 AM
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#783
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by davew
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Like I said...the fact that so many places are now talking about chemical weapons basically guarantees their use...by whomever wants to see this war broaden.
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03-14-2022, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Like I said...the fact that so many places are now talking about chemical weapons basically guarantees their use...by whomever wants to see this war broaden.
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No way......Nato forbids that.....
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03-14-2022, 12:22 PM
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#785
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Originally Posted by geroge.burns99
scare tactics
do you think hes as bad as Hitler
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Putin's yet to engage in mass genocide, as Stalin and Hitler did, so the answer is obviously no.
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03-14-2022, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Lot of talk lately of the threat of Russia using chemical weapons in Ukraine.
My question is...why?
When was the last time Russia used chemical weapons on the battlefield?
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4 years ago.
The US is flexing it's intelligence gathering apparatus.
Same way we busted them up over using conscripts and the downing of those VDV IL76's.
To use a football analogy; we're showing we don't need to steal signals because we can already read the coaches play sheet and listen in on his headset.
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03-14-2022, 01:18 PM
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Germany to purchase 35 updated Eurofighters and F35s as part of their initial $100b defense splurge.
Finland NATO membership is polling at 60+% domestically.
Putin's invasion quickly turning in to the biggest self-own so far this century.
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03-14-2022, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Germany to purchase 35 updated Eurofighters and F35s as part of their initial $100b defense splurge.
Finland NATO membership is polling at 60+% domestically.
Putin's invasion quickly turning in to the biggest self-own so far this century.
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See...Trump knew...if Germany had only listened to Trump years ago...
You keep saying how Trump wanted out of NATO...thought NATO was obsolete...but why was he telling Germany that they should pay more? Pay more for what? An obsolete alliance?
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 03-14-2022 at 01:58 PM.
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03-14-2022, 02:01 PM
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PA Steward
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TIL: Trump was telling NATO members like Germany to start paying their fair share...and telling Germany NOT to be so reliant on Russian gas...while at the same time, being a RUSSIAN ASSET and a PUTIN PUPPET and wanting to eliminate NATO.
get triggered
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03-14-2022, 02:45 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Germany to purchase 35 updated Eurofighters and F35s as part of their initial $100b defense splurge.
Finland NATO membership is polling at 60+% domestically.
Putin's invasion quickly turning in to the biggest self-own so far this century.
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Germany upgrading its air force......deja vu
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03-14-2022, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
See...Trump knew...if Germany had only listened to Trump years ago...
You keep saying how Trump wanted out of NATO...thought NATO was obsolete...but why was he telling Germany that they should pay more? Pay more for what? An obsolete alliance?
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Because Trump didn't even understand how NATO worked. That was demonstrated during the press releases surrounding the convention.
It's also been widely circulated he planned to withdraw from the alliance in his second term. His NSA Advisor and DefSec have both confirmed that.
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03-14-2022, 02:56 PM
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#792
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
TIL: Trump was telling NATO members like Germany to start paying their fair share...and telling Germany NOT to be so reliant on Russian gas...while at the same time, being a RUSSIAN ASSET and a PUTIN PUPPET and wanting to eliminate NATO.
get triggered
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I'm not even sure what it is you're trying to argue here.
You seem pretty hung up on him being a Russian Asset.
I viewed him as mostly an extremely useful idiot.
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03-14-2022, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Because Trump didn't even understand how NATO worked. That was demonstrated during the press releases surrounding the convention.
It's also been widely circulated he planned to withdraw from the alliance in his second term. His NSA Advisor and DefSec have both confirmed that.
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Widely circulated BS from mainstream propaganda?
He knew all too well how USA was subsidizing NATO and just wanted to make it work the way it was designed.
Please show something too substantiate your claims....
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03-14-2022, 03:17 PM
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#794
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Because Trump didn't even understand how NATO worked. That was demonstrated during the press releases surrounding the convention.
It's also been widely circulated he planned to withdraw from the alliance in his second term. His NSA Advisor and DefSec have both confirmed that.
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Someone who saw an alliance as obsolete and useless and not worth even belonging too wouldn't be pushing member nations to up their contributions to said alliance.
Neither would a useful idiot of Putin.
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03-14-2022, 03:17 PM
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C'est Tout
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Originally Posted by davew
Widely circulated BS from mainstream propaganda?
He knew all too well how USA was subsidizing NATO and just wanted to make it work the way it was designed.
Please show something too substantiate your claims....
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As opposed to BS from the many right wing propaganda publications?
You know, the ones Boxers like to cite:
The Federalist
Epoch Times
etc etc...
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