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03-09-2012, 02:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by badcompany
It's not about picking winners. You can have a day where you hit five races and lose, and another day in which you have one winner and win.
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Assuming you mean on one card, there is no chance I could ever have 5 winners and lose.
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03-09-2012, 02:16 PM
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I case you guys are missing it, Andy is crushing today
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03-09-2012, 03:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I case you guys are missing it, Andy is crushing today
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Yep, straight early double paid $78.50.
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03-09-2012, 03:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Assuming you mean on one card, there is no chance I could ever have 5 winners and lose.
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Two players, A & B, each bet $2 on every race of a ten-race card.
Player A has five winners with average price of $3.80.
Player B has one winner which paid $22.00.
Player B has a positive roi, Player A, negative.
It might not be possible for you, but, it is possible.
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Last edited by badcompany; 03-09-2012 at 03:30 PM.
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03-09-2012, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by badcompany
Two players, A & B, each bet $2 on every race of a ten-race card.
Player A has five winners with average price of $3.80.
Player B has one winner which paid $22.00.
Player B has a positive roi, Player B, negative.
It might not be possible for you, but, it is possible.
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I agree, I was talking about me. Of course it is possible. Player A is also going to be a loser in my opinion unless he is getting a stout rebate.
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03-09-2012, 03:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
The public handicapper who can show a profit for the long-term has not been born yet.
And if he ever does show up...my money says that he will have the sense to keep his ability hidden from the public eye...
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This holds true in the stock market, as well.
Every Bull and Bear market has its "gurus" who called the exact top or bottom; however, their genius usually disappears by the next top/bottom.
The reason for this is that they're trying to solve equations with too many unknowns.
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03-09-2012, 03:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Yep, straight early double paid $78.50.
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Not a bad day for Serling.
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03-09-2012, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Yep, straight early double paid $78.50.
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I mean this as a compliment.
I don't know how he came up with the winner of the 2nd.
To me the horse looked like a very slow router dropping back to a sprint where he would probably get outrun. He had gone off at 45-1, 80-1 and 25-1 for a trainer that hadn't won a race in several years.
It was a terrible field screaming out for a wake up horse, but at 6.60-1 I couldn't play that horse even with Andy's blessing. Great pick. I must have missed something.
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03-09-2012, 04:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I mean this as a compliment.
I don't know how he came up with the winner of the 2nd.
To me the horse looked like a very slow router dropping back to a sprint where he would probably get outrun. He had gone off at 45-1, 80-1 and 25-1 for a trainer that hadn't won a race in several years.
It was a terrible field screaming out for a wake up horse, but at 6.60-1 I couldn't play that horse even with Andy's blessing. Great pick. I must have missed something.
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I know you did. I hope you didn't think I took it some other way. I was just adding details.
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03-09-2012, 04:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
I know you did. I hope you didn't think I took it some other way. I was just adding details.
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No at all.
I just wanted to make sure my analysis of the 2nd race was interpreted as a compliment to him and lack of "something" on my part rather than an insult at his selection.
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03-09-2012, 07:21 PM
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clean money
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
No at all.
I just wanted to make sure my analysis of the 2nd race was interpreted as a compliment to him and lack of "something" on my part rather than an insult at his selection.
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If you are implying that Serling had a bad day, I disagree.
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03-09-2012, 09:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
If you are implying that Serling had a bad day, I disagree.
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What?
I was the one that came here to point out he had the double cold.
Gee wiz, I know I'm not best communicator, but I thought I bent over backwards to be clear that I was impressed with his selection in the second race because I had tossed the horse.
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03-09-2012, 09:57 PM
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Not a bad day for Serling
I don't have the "database" on this, but it would seem that he is having great success looking for horses turning back in distance. Missed his picks today, unfortunately.
Ocala Mike
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03-09-2012, 09:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
What?
I was the one that came here to point out he had the double cold.
Gee wiz, I know I'm not best communicator, but I thought I bent over backwards to be clear that I was impressed with his selection in the second race because I had tossed the horse.
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Serves you right for cutting down on the size of your posts lately...
Your usual clarity is not there anymore...
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03-09-2012, 10:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
The public handicapper who can show a profit for the long-term has not been born yet.
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Define long-term.
Forever? For an entire meet? For a certain number of days?
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