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Old 04-16-2015, 02:17 PM   #1
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Upstart

Im finding with people who use computer programs or sheets or any type of system that Upstart's name keeps hanging around. Do we need to look deeper into this horse?

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I did like him before the Florida derby, & still liked him a bit afterwards.......but I think he's peaked already, also, he had a fever, losing a couple days of working out......he's totally off my top 3
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I did like him before the Florida derby, & still liked him a bit afterwards.......but I think he's peaked already, also, he had a fever, losing a couple days of working out......he's totally off my top 3
He's back in training and galloped 14F "with energy".
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:35 PM   #4
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Im finding with people who use computer programs or sheets or any type of system that Upstart's name keeps hanging around. Do we need to look deeper into this horse?
Upstart
88 Late Pace in last
3.00 DI
Does not qualify on closing fractions
NY Bred
Dual Qualifier

Just a couple knocks against him...but anything can happen.

I have him in the 3rd position right now.
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:53 PM   #5
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He's back in training and galloped 14F "with energy".


I seen that, bit it won't change my mind......Frosted worked 5f in 1:01.38.......he looks good.
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Any time a horse has a set back in training up to the Derby after their last race, like the fever Upstart just had, it's a huge red flag.
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Old 04-16-2015, 04:10 PM   #7
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Any time a horse has a set back in training up to the Derby after their last race, like the fever Upstart just had, it's a huge red flag.


Exactly!
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Old 04-17-2015, 08:46 AM   #8
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https://twitter.com/DRFWelsch/status/589043540228997120

Upstart like he never missed a beat 4 furs. 23.84 47.50 finished strong all on his own, out huge in 59.47 at Palm Meadows.
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I did like him before the Florida derby, & still liked him a bit afterwards.......but I think he's peaked already, also, he had a fever, losing a couple days of working out......he's totally off my top 3
Then I guess I found my top pick.
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Old 04-17-2015, 09:54 AM   #10
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top 3 or so in the Juvenile
best in the Holy Bull
best in the Fountain of Youth
about equal to the winner in the Florida Derby

good price
form that isn't easy for every player to read from a past performance
ability to win the derby if he receives a good trip AND there are no superstar performances


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Old 04-17-2015, 03:09 PM   #11
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Upstart worked this morning in a 4f bullet in :47 at Palm Meadows.......Int Star & a few others will workout Saturday.
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:25 PM   #12
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“He felt great,” King said. “He felt really good. He’s done everything right. He went the right time – everything, the fractions were perfect.”

“He’s push-button. He’s really a nice ride,” she added. “If he messes up, it’s the rider’s fault, because he does anything you ask him to do!”
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Its the "riders fault" if the horses doesn't win, he's basically saying

My cousin called me & read the same thing you typed above Nads........

I still like Frosted unless he gets a bad post. The post draw is basically what we're waiting on.......
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:39 PM   #14
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He's one of the top 3 horses in the race, who's odds are going to be near 20-1.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:45 PM   #15
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i had a fever 14 days from my class l cc track meet, and can honestly say i blame my poor performance on my fever that i had 2 weeks previous....do you believe this excuse is plausible...note..i was shitty before the fever
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