9/11 conspiracy?

[Show Me the Wire]

Surprised PA didn't post about this.

Franklin Square and Munson Fire District are asking for a new 9/11 investigation.

The Franklin Square and Munson Fire District 9/11 Resolution

Whereas, the attacks of September 11, 2001, are inextricably and forever tied to the Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department;

Whereas, on September 11, 2001, while operating at the World Trade Center in New York City, firefighter Thomas J. Hetzel, badge #290 of Hook and Ladder Company #1, Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department of New York, was killed in performance of his duties, along with 2,976 other emergency responders and civilians;

Whereas, members of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department were called upon to assist in the subsequent rescue and recovery operations and cleanup of the World Trade Center site, afflicting many of them with life-threatening illnesses as a result of breathing the deadly toxins present at the site;

Whereas, the Board of Fire Commissioners of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District recognizes the significant and compelling nature of the petition before the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York reporting un-prosecuted federal crimes at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and calling upon the United States Attorney to present that petition to a Special Grand Jury pursuant to the United States Constitution and 18 U.S.C. SS 3332(A);

Whereas, the overwhelming evidence presented in said petition demonstrates beyond any doubt that pre-planted explosives and/or incendiaries — not just airplanes and the ensuing fires — caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings, killing the vast majority of the victims who perished that day;

Whereas, the victims of 9/11, their families, the people of New York City, and our nation deserve that every crime related to the attacks of September 11, 2001, be investigated to the fullest and that every person who was responsible face justice;

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Fire Commissioners of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District fully supports a comprehensive federal grand jury investigation and prosecution of every crime related to the attacks of September 11, 2001, as well as any and all efforts by other government entities to investigate and uncover the full truth surrounding the events of that horrible day. [emphasis added]

Coincidence the FBI released the report about conspiracy theories and terrorism during the same time frame as the release of the above resolution?

[PaceAdvantage]

Unlike some others on this board (ahem, hcap), I don't live and breath everything I ever happen to post about on this board.

I just find certain things interesting, and worthy of more study. This is one of them...thanks for posting.

No, I didn't hear about this...

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Sorry, but I don't even remotely believe in that conspiracy.

2 planes flew into the Twin Towers with full amounts of fuel.

If there were explosives set in those buildings, it was incredibly risky to plant them, much less set them off when the top of the buildings began to crash.

The deafening explosions are when floors upon floors of metal, glass, and everything else collapsed upon itself.

If there were explosives, why go through the drama of killing your own selves? Explosives alone would have taken the Towers down if properly placed like some people believe.

[dlivery]

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

Sorry, but I don't even remotely believe in that conspiracy.

2 planes flew into the Twin Towers with full amounts of fuel.

If there were explosives set in those buildings, it was incredibly risky to plant them, much less set them off when the top of the buildings began to crash.

The deafening explosions are when floors upon floors of metal, glass, and everything else collapsed upon itself.

If there were explosives, why go through the drama of killing your own selves? Explosives alone would have taken the Towers down if properly placed like some people believe.

Imagine all of all of the Fuel Dumped down upon those buildings and starting
a fire of unimaginable and noting what ensured.

Is this possible Starting a fire from beneath it self.

Sure just like a barbecue.

[Tom]

I would be seriously interest to see how explosives could have
been on Monday night and not seen the next morning. How could they be sure the towers would fall at all, and it is bit an easy thing to set explosives and bring down a smaller building with months of prep work. What is they set them off and they didn't bring down the towers? That would be way too risky.

But, if they think they have evidence and not some souped up FISA warrant, I'll keep an open mind. But from all the real testing done to prove it could have happened as seen live on TV, it will have to be some damn good stuff.

[fast4522]

I believe every event of that magnitude will have a cover up for any mistakes made, release of information needs to be verified and screened for minimal damage to the public. I also think had one of the planes missed its mark the tower left standing would be proof these Osama operatives were lucky to hit what they did, much could gone wrong with their planning. During the steel tariff arguments it came out that steel from China was no way strong as US steel, who knows the grade of steel was in the Twin Towers regardless of what is published. So my final thought is that no charges to blow up the Twin Towers with planes impacting them, just bullshit.

[PaceAdvantage]

A few things:

a) a great majority of the jet fuel was consumed in the initial explosion , would not all or most of you agree on this? That huge fireball when one of the crashes occurred? All of that was the jet fuel burning away....a lot or most of it outside the building....can't remember if the 2nd crash had as big a fireball or not...but that's what that was...so there wasn't this ocean of jet fuel soaking the building and burning for an hour. That's just plain wrong.

b) you guys are thinking way too conventionally when you talk about explosives or whatever else being there before the crashes, if indeed there was something there before the crashes. Lots of interesting facts and such surrounding the weeks leading up to 9/11 and the WTC complex. Probably all coincidences of course. That's what fuels conspiracy theories...coincidences...winkety wink.

I have no interest discussing this topic unless something interesting and new is brought up in this thread. It's been beat to death everywhere...people's minds will never be changed, no matter where on the spectrum they lean (full belief in official report vs. don't believe a word of it vs. somewhere in between).

Always keep this in mind about the government: they told all the 1st responders and volunteers working the recovery effort at Ground Zero in the days and weeks that followed that the air was safe, when nothing could be further from the truth. The public will buy anything, is how they basically operate. Anybody with a lick of sense knew the air was toxic for quite some time.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-todd-whitman

[Greyfox]

I doubt that we'll ever find out the total truth about 9-11.

Adding to the confusion was the collapse of Building 7, a CIA Headquarters, that was not hit by the planes.
It came down like a demolition project for an old Las Vegas casino.
I've seen explanations for its collapse, but still am left wondering.

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[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

I doubt that we'll ever find out the total truth about 9-11.

Adding to the confusion was the collapse of Building 7, a CIA Headquarters, that was not hit by the planes.
It came down like a demolition project for an old Las Vegas casino.
I've seen explanations for its collapse, but still am left wondering.


https://youtu.be/7ZiMG84hws0

Maybe because a couple of 110 story buildings that were smeltering and brought to the ground next to it may have had something to do with the damage that took ancillary buildings down.



Not sure. Just a thought.

[Tom]

After Las Vegas, I have no doubt the Deep State controls information at all levels.

[horses4courses]

The only surprise for me in all of this is that a theory has yet to surface
which puts Barack Obama, James Comey, and Hillary Clinton in a flight crew
on one, or more, of the aircraft prior to those tragic journeys.

Or, did I miss it?

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by Tom

After Las Vegas, I have no doubt the Deep State controls information at all levels.

Honest question, what would you like to know about the Vegas massacre?

For me it was a Vegas frequenting rich white dude with a likely crap ton of points for his hotel of choice that was angry at the world for no reason.

He was able to get a couple of door to door rooms at a top level and bring in bags of artillery over several hours. He was just their normal customer bringing in stuff.

The guy was bat s**t crazy.

He could have easily rented a van and ran over several hundred people that night. I think it is amazing that the vast majority of people avoided death and serious injury that dreadful night.

For me, I don't want to make sense for that horrific night. There is no sense. Lone crazy people disconnected from the world are always going to be hard to find.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

The only surprise for me in all of this is that a theory has yet to surface
which puts Barack Obama, James Comey, and Hillary Clinton in a flight crew
on one, or more, of the aircraft prior to those tragic journeys.

Or, did I miss it?

Nailed it.



None of them knew one another at any point in time in their lives.

I'm in full support of them taking an around the globe flight on a Boeing 737 Max.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

Honest question, what would you like to know about the Vegas massacre?

For me it was a Vegas frequenting rich white dude with a likely crap ton of points for his hotel of choice that was angry at the world for no reason.

He was able to get a couple of door to door rooms at a top level and bring in bags of artillery over several hours. He was just their normal customer bringing in stuff.

The guy was bat s**t crazy.

He could have easily rented a van and ran over several hundred people that night. I think it is amazing that the vast majority of people avoided death and serious injury that dreadful night.

For me, I don't want to make sense for that horrific night. There is no sense. Lone crazy people disconnected from the world are always going to be hard to find.

LDH, I hate to inform you that your opinion of the events of the Vegas shootings are far from what really went down. All you're doing is regurgitating what the media spewed out to deceive the public. There is a long thread about this event and I think you should give it a look.....Huge cover-up took place.

BTW, I was a Vegas guy for many years and have many current connections who've kept me informed since the event took place....Yes, there IS a Deep state.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

LDH, I hate to inform you that your opinion of the events of the Vegas shootings are far from what really went down. All you're doing is regurgitating what the media spewed out to deceive the public. There is a long thread about this event and I think you should give it a look.....Huge cover-up took place.

BTW, I was a Vegas guy for many years and have many current connections who've kept me informed since the event took place....Yes, there IS a Deep state.

I'm all ears. What really went down.