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08-04-2019, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by davew
The videos sure shows the buildings falling from the bottom down, not the top down. Boeing 757, 767 have over 10K and 20K gallons fuel when full. If most of that made it to the foundation, I could see the metal supports finally melting.
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Except all or most of the fuel ignited on impact...what do you think generated those immense fireballs?
Where did this fantasy story that 10-20k gallons of pure unadulterated jet fuel made it down to the bottom of the building start?
That's pure fantasy.
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08-04-2019, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Except all or most of the fuel ignited on impact...what do you think generated those immense fireballs?
Where did this fantasy story that 10-20k gallons of pure unadulterated jet fuel made it down to the bottom of the building start?
That's pure fantasy.
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What makes you sure it all ignited and exploded into a fireball?
here is an example of a nearly full fuel plane burn
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08-04-2019, 04:47 AM
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A non-conspiracy/conspiracy theory
Two questions:
1. Has any conspiracy theory ever been proven?
2. If so, is it then called something else?
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08-04-2019, 01:49 PM
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I believed the point I tried to make is being missed. A government agency, is asking for the re-opening of the investigation and in its petition the government authority states it has presented overwhelming evidence demonstrating pre-planted explosives and/or incendiaries.
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Whereas, the overwhelming evidence presented in said petition demonstrates beyond any doubt that pre-planted explosives and/or incendiaries — not just airplanes and the ensuing fires — caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings, killing the vast majority of the victims who perished that day;
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08-04-2019, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Two questions:
1. Has any conspiracy theory ever been proven?
2. If so, is it then called something else?
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the dims yell conspiracy theory frequently, if it is proven correct it becomes conspiracy and cover-up
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08-04-2019, 02:22 PM
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Wikipedia says the 7 World Trade Center building fell after the North Tower collapsed and debris fell on it. It looked to be like 7 World Trade fell due to controlled explosions. But maybe that was an illusion?
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08-04-2019, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by highnote
Wikipedia says the 7 World Trade Center building fell after the North Tower collapsed and debris fell on it. It looked to be like 7 World Trade fell due to controlled explosions. But maybe that was an illusion?
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Its actually very easy to infiltrate a busy building, place explosives precisely so that it demolishes, doesnt take a lot of training.
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08-04-2019, 02:39 PM
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For all you dyed-in-the-wool conspiracy theorists. Now is the time for your conspiracist-in-chief as head of the all intel agencies to make public EVERYTHING!!!!
From alien abductions to the fake moon landing to what really happened on 911.
Oh wait, all the intel agencies don't trust him from squat, and besides he never reads anything other than twitter, or learns anything other than what Sean and Tucker have to say
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08-04-2019, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
For all you dyed-in-the-wool conspiracy theorists. Now is the time for your conspiracist-in-chief as head of the all intel agencies to make public EVERYTHING!!!!
From alien abductions to the fake moon landing to what really happened on 911.
Oh wait, all the intel agencies don't trust him from squat, and besides he never reads anything other than twitter, or learns anything other than what Sean and Tucker have to say
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He is still working on the political spying, attempted coup to overthrow an elected president, and cover-up of that coup. The swamp is deep.
Oh wait, the 0bama appointed intel agency leaders are mostly gone.
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08-05-2019, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by davew
He is still working on the political spying, attempted coup to overthrow an elected president, and cover-up of that coup. The swamp is deep.
Oh wait, the 0bama appointed intel agency leaders are mostly gone.
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It's gotten 10x's deeper since the Chump.
The so-called attempt to overthrow the Chump, is the most fallacious conspiracy theory yet.
Seriously thinking he is still battling the "forces of evil" in the Intel community out to get him, proves you are delusional, and the Chump, totally ineffective.
Sounds like a made for TV situation comedy.
At least he is perfect for the part 
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08-05-2019, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
It's gotten 10x's deeper since the Chump.
The so-called attempt to overthrow the Chump, is the most fallacious conspiracy theory yet.
Seriously thinking he is still battling the "forces of evil" in the Intel community out to get him, proves you are delusional, and the Chump, totally ineffective.
Sounds like a made for TV situation comedy.
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you should listen to this
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08-05-2019, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
Its actually very easy to infiltrate a busy building, place explosives precisely so that it demolishes, doesnt take a lot of training.
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Then why does it take so many months of preparation to demolish and empty building, and many times, it fails to bring it down?
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08-05-2019, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Then why does it take so many months of preparation to demolish and empty building, and many times, it fails to bring it down?
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Maybe conventional explosives weren't used?
How do you explain all those skyscrapers over the past 18 years that have burned for as much as 24 hours, one or two of them were steel as I recall, and never crumbled to the ground or "melted" away their support structures?
Maybe both twin towers were constructed in a faulty manner...
It took each one only an HOUR to collapse...mind boggling...
And only a little longer for the building that WASN'T hit by a plane to collapse...even more mind boggling.
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08-05-2019, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Maybe conventional explosives weren't used?
How do you explain all those skyscrapers over the past 18 years that have burned for as much as 24 hours, one or two of them were steel as I recall, and never crumbled to the ground or "melted" away their support structures?
Maybe both twin towers were constructed in a faulty manner...
It took each one only an HOUR to collapse...mind boggling...
And only a little longer for the building that WASN'T hit by a plane to collapse...even more mind boggling.
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Why did building 7 collapse when not hit by a plane but others did. Why was building 7 vacant?
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08-05-2019, 03:35 PM
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Maybe both twin towers were constructed in a faulty manner...
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Not trying to be negative, but they were build differently, so that once the top floors started coming, it was like once Hulk Hogan got his torn tee shirt started, it ripped apart easily.
Now, unconventional explosives, totally different story. I am just assuming if we had them we would using them industrially. BUT I guess that we might have somethings our govt is not going to share to benefit us. Who knows what MJ12 is handing out these days.
If there is evidence, as it seems there is, we are obligated to investigate it. Truth is always #1 - no matter who gives it to us.
Or how.
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