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Old 07-13-2019, 12:24 PM   #1081
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Yes I support sticking it to China and letting them implode if they want to. Free up our ports with a reduced percentage of cheep garbage grade crap inside shipping containers.
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Old 07-13-2019, 12:31 PM   #1082
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This proves PTrump has hired more of the best and brightest in 3 years than the Obama and Bush years combined.
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Old 07-13-2019, 12:42 PM   #1083
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So nobody ran in the place of those retiring GOPers?

By the way flat out lying is a pretty poor debating tactic
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When I debate the dumbest guy in the entire social media universe, lying is never needed nor even considered.

Who said nobody, except you? I didn't. I said most of those that ran in place of the retiring GOP incumbents were Establishment types that didn't run on the Trump agenda. I also added that some actually ran against Trump's agenda. There were 3-4 in my area that did that and lost as did others throughout the country, that's why the Democrats now control the House; my incumbent GOP congressman, Brian Fitzpatrick, did that as well and won by only 2-3 percent points against a clown who curses in synagogues and had lived in France most of his life. His brother, Mike Fitzpatrick, preceded Brian and regularly won his seat by 60-40, 55-45 margins.

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You keep wanting to credit the tax cut without acknowledging it leads to deficit spending.

I can increase deficit spending by either cutting taxes or increasing spending. Trump did both.

We're done on this issue.
Yes we are done, but you, mostly you are finished.

Taxes are the people's money; when tax cuts occur, the citizens keep their money. It does not have anything to do with the deficit. If you wanna cut the deficit, cut spending. Bring in more money from abroad; have companies locate and relocate here and the like. Grow the economy, something Obama did at two percent annually whose 'growth' rate is being smashed by the Trump economy.

Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama all raised taxes in one way, shape and form. The economy has been in a decline since the 1990s yet grew somewhat thanks to the microchip, etc., before going back into a stagnant economy and later, recession.

Trump cut taxes and the economy has boomed and has reversed the downward spiral, given us by those that raised taxes and regulation. Oh of course, much of the economics woes were caused by illegal and immoral trade deals that added 100s of billions of annual trade deficits. For the most part I blame all those 'free traders' in the GOP.

What don't you understand, except everything? Remember, you are entitled to being ignorant, just don't expect us to be stupid such as yourself.

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It was a tax.

If you don't buy insurance pay the tax.

If you don't buy American pay the tax.
Obama Care forced citizens to buy health insurance; if they did not they would be penalties and fines and he hired 75,000 IRS brown shirts to corral the US citizen and lay boots on our necks. Obama didn't budget for doctors, nurses, and medical pros, but he did for IRS agents.

For the last time, the US Constitution says the government cannot mandate a private citizen to purchase a product from a private corporation.

I won't accuse you of not reading the Constitution but I am pretty sure if you did, you still have no clue what it says and means.

Trump said buy American. There were no threats, no thugs from the IRS; no mandate. We can buy any product, any insurance, anything we wish on our own free will. No Obama nazi laws mandating what to buy from whom, especially health insurance.

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Exact same logic and mechanism... you're making the mistake of thinking I support one over the other. They're both bullshit. I just call it how it is.

The only class I've seen this much spinning in is Zumba...
I NEVER ever said you support one over the other ... whatever you mean by that. Stop your juvenile, millennial illogic of framing a conservation with false narratives.

You don't have the goods or what it takes to even debate a point, mush less win one.

You call it like it is?? ha, ha. I guess you learned all that trolling web sites, playing video games, and creeping out on those mostly women that do zumba. I got it.

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Old 07-13-2019, 01:16 PM   #1084
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We can do this one more time...



18 Democrats and 34 Republicans retired. Of those a net of 10 seats flipped.

After that 35 more went for the the Democrats.

You're lying when you said 40 and you're most definitely lying when you use it to explain a 45 seat swing.



You can increase deficit spending by cutting taxes or increasing spending.

Trump did both.

If I made 2019 a tax holiday and dropped all taxes to 0% the economy would launch forward. The deficit would also launch to about $4 trillion.

That's deficit spending to boost a economy.

What you're trying to do is smoke and mirror the fact cutting taxes, which you claim helped the economy (it did), did not also increase deficit spending.



If you don't buy insurance you pay a tax.

If you don't buy American you pay a tax.

One you paid at the end of the year when you filed. The other you pay at the checkout line.

A tax is a tax is a tax.

More smoke and mirrors.

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Old 07-13-2019, 01:36 PM   #1085
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This country should never tax the middle class to benefit socialist period.
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Old 07-13-2019, 01:58 PM   #1086
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This country should never tax the middle class to benefit socialist period.
but what about the poor children of the world? shouldn't everyone help?


it is a good thing the Rs got rid of some crap Senators and still gained seats. It is only a matter of time until another SCOTUS needs relaced and the house has nothing to do with that.
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Old 07-13-2019, 06:51 PM   #1087
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Bush didn't allow anything - his administration spoke out against what was happening and Freddie Mac. This was pointed out to you years ago. Still in denial I see.
He allowed dickhead Cheney and the Iraq invasion, but in terms of the Great Recession, may I ask what did Obama have to do with Freddie Mac?

Was it on President Obama's watch?

Btw, Bush, vowed to spread the dream of home ownership.His belief that Americans do best when they own their homes... and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored mortgage finance giants followed suit.

Bush signed the American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003 in his first term.
Good intentions all around but Obama did not do it.
Only inherited it.
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Old 07-13-2019, 06:58 PM   #1088
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I do not buy that crap for one minute, sell climate change too if you will. Redistributing wealth I have never believed in.
Careful I think you were left outside in the sun too long. What may I ask does climate change have to to do with trillion dollars of debt and corporate socialism?
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Old 07-13-2019, 07:00 PM   #1089
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This proves PTrump has hired more of the best and brightest in 3 years than the Obama and Bush years combined.
Woop-di-do
Go Chyump
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Old 07-13-2019, 07:20 PM   #1090
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This is the Democrat party right now.

Own it. This IS what you are.

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Old 07-13-2019, 07:32 PM   #1091
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This is the Democrat party right now.

Own it. This IS what you are.

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/sta...07832428761088
Unfortunately, this is the ugly face of the Republican party.
Own it if you can.

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Old 07-13-2019, 07:32 PM   #1092
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Careful I think you were left outside in the sun too long. What may I ask does climate change have to to do with trillion dollars of debt and corporate socialism?
Was my way of telling you to go back to your true love, cow farts.
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Old 07-13-2019, 07:34 PM   #1093
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Was my way of telling you to go back to your true love, cow farts.
I am debating one right now.
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Old 07-13-2019, 09:04 PM   #1094
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I don't think most modern liberals have ever suffered an ounce in their lives.

That's why they're okay with bringing massive illegal immigration into this country and having everyone pay for it, even though there are homeless Americans already suffering.

The money will just come out of thin air I suppose.
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Old 07-13-2019, 10:35 PM   #1095
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This is the Democrat party right now.

Own it. This IS what you are.

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/sta...07832428761088
Yeah, Commies at it again in good ole Colorado, I see.

Why wasn't someone there in five seconds to rip that rag down?

Where is the backbone in Colorado? Gone to 'pot,' I suppose.
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