NY AG indicts Trump family

[xtb]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I've already covered this. It's irrelevant to a fraud case.

Even Ralph and I agree on that.

I'm a lender. He's a cop.

Isn't a civil suit about proving damages? What were the damages? There was no risk. $250 million??? Looks good in the headlines for Tish, "See, I'm gettin' Trump!"

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

The AG is literally tasked with doing this by law.

They would in my state and NY is waaaay more regulated than Michigan. NY-CA-TX then everyone else when it comes to regulations.

This clearly was a criminal investigation that they decided to go the civil route instead because of the lower bar.

As I said before they already have the depositions and Trump can't do anything about since he chose to plead the 5th.

He likely increases his criminal exposure if he wants to amend them to defend himself in this case.

You're not getting my point. How do AsG, any AG, know of a potential case/crime unless it is somehow brought to his or her attention; someone complains like your boss could have in your "story," or like you could have in your hypothetical account.

Is it typical for AsG to go sniffing around for crimes to keep them busy? AG James admitted during her campaign that she would be committed to FINDING a crime against a man that she despises so that she could get off on prosecuting him.

She is a disgusting disgrace to the whole legal profession and should be prosecuted for the intentional perversion of truth herself.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

Here, too, who initiated the law suit? Was it the state AG sniffing around for some "juicy" crimes?

It wasn’t a lawsuit. It was a criminal complaint. They were indicted by a grand jury.

Her husband Joe was involved in lots of shady shit and some of the money was used to finance his construction business, which was being investigated for fraud if I remember right. Once they get into your books, and your bank records…..you’re toast

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by xtb

Isn't a civil suit about proving damages? What were the damages? There was no risk. $250 million??? Looks good in the headlines for Tish, "See, I'm gettin' Trump!"

Maybe... maybe not. I don't know NY law.

That said if he overvalued assets for loans and undervalued on tax documents NY can sue for the latter since the local, state, federal taxing authorities were damaged.

One number, at least according to Trump would have to be the correct number and would thus create exposure for the penalties associated with the other one.

It's also not just financial damages being sought here.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

You're not getting my point. How do AsG, any AG, know of a potential case/crime unless it is somehow brought to his or her attention; someone complains like your boss could have in your "story," or like you could have in your hypothetical account.

Michael Cohen.

[Tom]

[nuckman]

If the New York AG, Letitia James, wants to investigate someone that would end up benefitting her personally, she should investigate Jenny Craig.

[jocko699]

Originally Posted by nuckman

If the New York AG, Letitia James, wants to investigate someone that would end up benefitting her personally, she should investigate Jenny Craig.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by nuckman

If the New York AG, Letitia James, wants to investigate someone that would end up benefitting her personally, she should investigate Jenny Craig.

Classic!

[myohmyjustify]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I've already covered this. It's irrelevant to a fraud case.

Even Ralph and I agree on that.

I'm a lender. He's a cop.

There is and was no fraud. Even a lender and cop should know this, but you don't.

Who was injured by Trump in this "fraud" case again?

Again: There is and was no fraud committed by Trump, his family and his company.

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Michael Cohen.

Once a liar (in court) always a liar (in court) or, at least, perceived to be...even Judge Judy said so.

[lex]

Thinking a NY AG wouldn't bring a suit she/he couldn't win would be forgetting the history of that position. I think Spitzer was probably the best at it. Sue, settle because it's cheaper for the business and claim victory.

The only reason she would really let this get to court is because she can probably get a jury to convict him of anything. I wouldn't be shocked to find she wouldn't settle originally because she wanted this show and she could still settle after the election.

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Maybe... maybe not. I don't know NY law.

That said if he overvalued assets for loans and undervalued on tax documents NY can sue for the latter since the local, state, federal taxing authorities were damaged.

One number, at least according to Trump would have to be the correct number and would thus create exposure for the penalties associated with the other one.

It's also not just financial damages being sought here.

What states allow property owners give them property values for taxation??


TRUMP has said he will not settle because it would be like admitting he did something wrong.

[jay68802]

Originally Posted by davew

What states allow property owners give them property values for taxation??


TRUMP has said he will not settle because it would be like admitting he did something wrong.

Every year I get a property valuation from the state of Nebraska. Every year I appeal it. The State uses the size of the lot or lots, square footage of any buildings, and what they think the current price per square foot for like properties is.

The State wants a high valuation, I want a low one. We negotiate that valuation every year.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

Once a liar (in court) always a liar (in court) or, at least, perceived to be...even Judge Judy said so.

You asked. I answered.

He did go to prison and opened Trump up to criminal exposure resulting in this suit.