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01-12-2018, 09:03 AM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Originally Posted by cj
Well said. Equibase's general response to pointing out errors is something like "thanks, please let us know any time you see one and we'll get it fixed"...but nothing is done to find out why they happen and how to catch them. I volunteered to provide a better way for finding bad times FOR FREE and was actually turned down.
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Here is a good one from Turfway last night, 1st quarter, 1st race. I found it in the blink of an eye. Equibase has no idea. I've stopped helping them for a different reason, nothing against Equibase, but am making this one time exception to show how easy it can be. Whoever entered the time fat fingered it by a full second too fast.
Last edited by cj; 01-12-2018 at 09:54 AM.
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01-12-2018, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cj
I'm always mystified at people that tell you what data you do and don't need in this game. Just give us everything you can within reason, we'll figure it out from there.
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I'm a huge fan of more data.
I sort of understand why some people might want to help less experienced handicappers that could be overwhelmed by too much information, but that gets very subjective. You and I are both very experienced and agree on a lot of things, but we use different information also.
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01-12-2018, 03:39 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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01-12-2018, 06:41 PM
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My buddy jocko wants me to kill this thread, but I can't just yet!
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01-12-2018, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
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A Car's song, "Going round and round........"
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01-12-2018, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jocko699
A Car's song, "Going round and round........"
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I'll never give up the fight. The race today, and probably race 10 but I haven't checked, were pushing 8.5f, but are listed and being timed as 7.5f races. It is a slap in the face to horseplayers. They are withholding the time of 11% of the race. And the times are 100% available in the Trakus system. There is no good reason for them not to provide this information.
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01-12-2018, 06:52 PM
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Resurrectionist
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Originally Posted by cj
I'll never give up the fight. The race today, and probably race 10 but I haven't checked, were pushing 8.5f, but are listed and being timed as 7.5f races. It is a slap in the face to horseplayers. They are withholding the time of 11% of the race. And the times are 100% available in the Trakus system. There is no good reason for them not to provide this information.
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Well you know how I feel. It's a ffing travesty in this day and age. It reflects the people at GP really don't give a shite. That is why they are a third rate track.
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01-12-2018, 06:57 PM
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Maybe they will start not reporting if the race was a CLM, or ALW, that would be fun. And why report what track it was run at, maybe just tell handicappers what state it was run in. And random horses that it ran against, not the first 3 finishers...
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01-12-2018, 07:14 PM
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What's the problem?
7F is horrible. 7.5F is more kinda sorta more horrible.
Isn't every horse in the race running the same course when the gates open?
Are you really nutting down and 'capping the 7.5F vs 7.5F "maybe" distance?
I simply pass. Why even bother.
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01-12-2018, 07:23 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
What's the problem?
7F is horrible. 7.5F is more kinda sorta more horrible.
Isn't every horse in the race running the same course when the gates open?
Are you really nutting down and 'capping the 7.5F vs 7.5F "maybe" distance?
I simply pass. Why even bother.
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I hate to say this, but the problem seems to have gone over your head, like a few others in the thread. No big deal, good luck!
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01-12-2018, 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
I hate to say this, but the problem seems to have gone over your head, like a few others in the thread. No big deal, good luck!
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why not quit making figures for the track and steer your customers away from playing there due to the lack of transparency? These people only understand money, have to hit them were it hurts. See KEE as an example of stepping on their customers
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01-12-2018, 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
why not quit making figures for the track and steer your customers away from playing there due to the lack of transparency? These people only understand money, have to hit them were it hurts. See KEE as an example of stepping on their customers
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If they all suck, what track do you play?
Woodbine?
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01-12-2018, 07:43 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
why not quit making figures for the track and steer your customers away from playing there due to the lack of transparency? These people only understand money, have to hit them were it hurts. See KEE as an example of stepping on their customers
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The problem is these horses will show up elsewhere so I have to do the work. I can't have blanks for horses lining up for the Kentucky Derby! I just put the info out there. People can make their own decisions.
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01-12-2018, 07:43 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
If they all suck, what track do you play?
Woodbine?
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when did I say they all suck?
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01-12-2018, 07:45 PM
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Resurrectionist
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Cheyenne, Wy
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"Going round and round.................."
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