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08-11-2022, 10:39 AM
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Colonial double DQ yesterday
Last race....1/2 hour look by the stewards and they took down the first and second place horses. For minor infractions compared to the herding that goes on every race at the NYRA tracks.
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08-11-2022, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Last race....1/2 hour look by the stewards and they took down the first and second place horses. For minor infractions compared to the herding that goes on every race at the NYRA tracks.
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Wow that’s crazy because double DQ’s are very rare. I hit a very nice pick 4 at Los Al years ago because of a double DQ. That’s the last time I remember one happening.
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08-22-2022, 07:13 AM
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Last edited by Andy Asaro; 08-22-2022 at 07:20 AM.
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08-22-2022, 05:18 PM
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08-22-2022, 06:15 PM
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For the sake of the fuller picture, the NYSGC steward that is said single point of contact for determining jockey fines and suspensions is Braulio Baeza, Jr., son of the HOF jockey. I did think it odd that his name wasn't mentioned at all (that I heard) during the discussion of this topic.
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08-22-2022, 10:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarchCapper
For the sake of the fuller picture, the NYSGC steward that is said single point of contact for determining jockey fines and suspensions is Braulio Baeza, Jr., son of the HOF jockey. I did think it odd that his name wasn't mentioned at all (that I heard) during the discussion of this topic.
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He also, for some unknown reason, is the decision maker when it comes to mistimed races. He'd rather the public use bad hand-times than much more accurate video times. There are also times I've found races that were timed wrong but he won't allow them to be changed. Only in New York are stewards involved in this, and in this case it is the one steward.
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08-24-2022, 11:51 PM
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Bust Balls. Why not.
I could be a 🤡 and bust balls, but I don't care enough or know enough to even try.
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08-25-2022, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cj
He also, for some unknown reason, is the decision maker when it comes to mistimed races. He'd rather the public use bad hand-times than much more accurate video times. There are also times I've found races that were timed wrong but he won't allow them to be changed. Only in New York are stewards involved in this, and in this case it is the one steward.
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That is unbelievable!
A lousy state employee gets to make decisions like that????
I see only one reason he would do that, HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO EXPERTISE in the process, and that is he is acting in a dishonest manner. Yes, I am calling him crooked. This steward is disgrace.
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08-25-2022, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
That is unbelievable!
A lousy state employee gets to make decisions like that????
I see only one reason he would do that, HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO EXPERTISE in the process, and that is he is acting in a dishonest manner. Yes, I am calling him crooked. This steward is disgrace.
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Gotta be investigated. Big advantage knowing times are wrong
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08-25-2022, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
Gotta be investigated. Big advantage knowing times are wrong
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AND knowing certain riders can do what they want and not worry.
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08-25-2022, 01:24 PM
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08-25-2022, 06:17 PM
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Gotta be investigated. Big advantage knowing times are wrong
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It's probably less of an advantage these days because there are sometimes multiple sources for the times of the races and a few of the leading figure makers time the races themselves if something looks off, but a cynical person could certainly suspect that things like mistimed races and private information on track maintenance could be used to one's advantage if it was available.
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08-25-2022, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
It's probably less of an advantage these days because there are sometimes multiple sources for the times of the races and a few of the leading figure makers time the races themselves if something looks off, but a cynical person could certainly suspect that things like mistimed races and private information on track maintenance could be used to one's advantage if it was available.
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So you are saying he is not crooked, just incompetent?
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