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06-25-2017, 02:29 PM
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this is why the SCOTUS justices need to be able to be held accountable by the electorate. If we could remove them at will they would be a little more diligent.
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Not likely. A competent judge would still decide on the basis of what is right or wrong, not to play to the voters. A partisan judge like Ginsburg would not change her stripes, she would continue to vote on the basis of what she considers to be a "fair" and desired outcome rather than on the basis of the Constitution.
I have little faith in the ability of the electorate to objectively evaluate the decisions of justices, especially given the declining quality of education. That will get even worse as the snowflake students of today become the snowflake "teachers" of tomorrow.
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06-25-2017, 07:42 PM
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this is why the SCOTUS justices need to be able to be held accountable by the electorate. If we could remove them at will they would be a little more diligent.
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You mean we could actually get rid of the idiots that Bush and Trump appointed? What a great idea!!!
Of course it is a terrible idea. The interpretation of the law should not be based on the opinions of the ignorant.
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06-26-2017, 08:01 AM
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this is why the SCOTUS justices need to be able to be held accountable by the electorate. If we could remove them at will they would be a little more diligent.
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That's not worked so well with all our other politicians.
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06-26-2017, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
You mean we could actually get rid of the idiots that Bush and Trump appointed? What a great idea!!!
Of course it is a terrible idea. The interpretation of the law should not be based on the opinions of the ignorant.
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Your leaders knocked off Reagans' Antonin Scalia, but it might be awhile until your leaders are again in power.
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06-26-2017, 09:58 AM
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That's not worked so well with all our other politicians.
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in retrospect your probably right. we just need to get the revolution done and over with. I firmly believe that.
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06-26-2017, 01:29 PM
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and then when Ruth Ginsberg gets deported to New Zealand as per her campaign time promise, it will be 2 more.
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She's the only person in government more in need of assisted living than McCain. Both of them have lost their marbles.
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06-26-2017, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Not likely. A competent judge would still decide on the basis of what is right or wrong, not to play to the voters. A partisan judge like Ginsburg would not change her stripes, she would continue to vote on the basis of what she considers to be a "fair" and desired outcome rather than on the basis of the Constitution.
I have little faith in the ability of the electorate to objectively evaluate the decisions of justices, especially given the declining quality of education. That will get even worse as the snowflake students of today become the snowflake "teachers" of tomorrow.
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The good news is that a lot of of the hippies eventually grew up. So there's a shot that so will the snowflakes one they learn how the world actually works.
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06-26-2017, 01:34 PM
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I disagree with a few of you and here are the following:
1.) Few keep both physical and mental fitness at that age, I believe that she is in better physical shape than her mental state and is in early dementia stage.
2.) If HRC had won I doubt RBG would have immediately retired because it would be near impossible to get someone that liberal confirmed today.
3.) One she feels that she is no longer relevant (soon), she will want out in a big way. When the court goes opposite of her way 12345 times she will be gone.
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I'm not sure about #2 and #3, but I agree with #1 totally.
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06-26-2017, 02:20 PM
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She's the only person in government more in need of assisted living than McCain.
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McCain is high on the list, but above Nancy Pelosi? Bernie Sanders? Steny Hoyer?
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06-26-2017, 08:18 PM
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McCain is high on the list, but above Nancy Pelosi? Bernie Sanders? Steny Hoyer?
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You mean Pelosi isn't already in assisted living?
Damn it.
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06-26-2017, 08:49 PM
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I'm not sure about #2 and #3, but I agree with #1 totally.
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That's cool, because I am not looking for agreeing. Objectivity is a hard bar to reach in a place we are all obviously partisans, in the Comey is a Liar the thread is born by someone who can't come close to objectivity so the lines are drawn to suggest we have no objectivity.
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06-26-2017, 09:00 PM
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Neither could Chief Justice Roberts:
“Today’s decision knocks the definition of ‘private property’ loose from its foundation.”
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And we must never forget: One of the top tenets to fascist socialism is the abolition of private ownership of real property.
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06-26-2017, 09:11 PM
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Well, it is pretty much a known fact Roberts is a traitor, so paving the way to fascism might well be his ultimate goal.
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06-26-2017, 10:32 PM
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And we must never forget: One of the top tenets to fascist socialism is the abolition of private ownership of real property.
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Excellent point
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