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04-13-2020, 09:27 PM
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Fonner Park is proving a point I've made for a long time
The hard core horse player will bet anything if it's the only game in town.Fonner is getting amounts bet that it has never before seen and will never see again.
Given this evidence,why should racing in the future be structured to funnel a heavily disproportionate amount of money toward the top of the chain,sort of trickle up?
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04-13-2020, 10:00 PM
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Because people ALSO always bet more on the biggest game in town when there are many available options.
When there are only a few options, the only game in town gets the most money, of course.
It's pretty simple.
Just because Fonner is raking it in when it's one of the few games in town, doesn't mean people will continue to bet it when others start coming back online.
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04-13-2020, 10:06 PM
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I dont know if Fonner is raking it in. I read somewhere and dont recall where but Fonner Parks deals with ADW's is not good. Any track makes more from a live handle, plus admission and concessions than other ways.
If I can find where I read it I will post a link.
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04-13-2020, 10:11 PM
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A horrible track to bet on...IMO.
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04-13-2020, 10:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
A horrible track to bet on...IMO.
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Yep, every track I lose at is a horrible track as well....But not Fonner...
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04-13-2020, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
Yep, every track I lose at is a horrible track as well....But not Fonner...
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No. I lose at Oaklawn too...but it's a GREAT track.
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04-13-2020, 10:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
No. I lose at Oaklawn too...but it's a GREAT track.
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Oooooohhhh, now I get it....you love losing your money while betting on anything but very cheap horses.
Kind of like getting your bankroll shredded by a great looking woman, then she dumps you...
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04-13-2020, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
Oooooohhhh, now I get it....you love losing your money while betting on anything but very cheap horses.
Kind of like getting your bankroll shredded by a great looking woman, then she dumps you...
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Sure. Now that you got chewed out at the off topics...you come here and harass me.
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04-13-2020, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Sure. Now that you got chewed out at the off topics...you come here and harass me.
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I didn't see that, what did I say that I was scolded about?
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04-13-2020, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
I didn't see that, what did I say that I was scolded about?
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Trap question, you know that off topic is not allowed in the Horse Racing Forum.
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04-13-2020, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MONEY
Trap question, you know that off topic is not allowed in the Horse Racing Forum.
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Fast on the draw, Money...Spoiled my fun...
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04-13-2020, 11:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theiman
I dont know if Fonner is raking it in. I read somewhere and dont recall where but Fonner Parks deals with ADW's is not good. Any track makes more from a live handle, plus admission and concessions than other ways.
If I can find where I read it I will post a link.
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Fonner debuted a race card Monday that didn’t include spectators after shifting its race days from its traditional weekends. The result produced a track-record overall mutuel handle of $1.3 million, though only $28,000 was wagered locally.
The numbers went even higher Tuesday when the overall handle record fell again at $2.2 million, which included $31,000 on-track. The overall handle Wednesday was $1.6 million with an on-track total of $34,000.
While those figures sound tremendously encouraging, they also can be misleading. Fonner receives 3% of that overall handle from simulcasting revenues because it is split up several ways.
“We made enough this week to fund about 15 future races," Kotulak said. “I know when figures in the millions are being tossed around it sounds great, but we only get a sliver of that."
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https://www.omaha.com/sports/local-s...72e9a9dbf.html
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04-13-2020, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
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I think thats what I read.
For some reason I remember John Hernandez, who is at Prairie Meadows, I think PR and simo interviews, mentioned it too.
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04-13-2020, 11:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theiman
I think thats what I read.
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You want to be careful and keep your reading of the Omaha Weird-Harold to a minimum.
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04-14-2020, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
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So Fonner gets less as a percentage than some of the ADWs give their high dollar players? And we wonder why the sport is dying.
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