Religion III

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

All of us?

Depends. Ask Actor if he'd be willing to share his rock with anyone.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Depends. Ask Actor if he'd be willing to share his rock with anyone.

Actor was hoping this thread was dead.

You have been hiding under fanatical hypocritical weirdo rocks for all three religious threads. I was hoping you were permanently hiding, and were not ever coming out again.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Actor was hoping this thread was dead.

What pity! This thread has always been more alive than Actor ever was.

You have been hiding under fanatical hypocritical weirdo rocks for all three religious threads. I was hoping you were permanently hiding, and were not ever coming out again.

So...both you mopes were hopin', heh?

[boxcar]

China requiring churches to praise communist government, sing national anthem in order to reopen after lockdown

https://disrn.com/news/china-require...rder-to-reopen

I bet no one here thought secular humanism or any of its auxiliaries were a religion, right?

[Light]

You're no different because your tie to God also involves politics (right wing politics) and right wing social preferences, so what's the difference?

God is a personal and internal experience that has nothing to do with Trump or XI or social politics. Until you get that, your experience of God (self) will always be underwhelming and primitive.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Light

You're no different because your tie to God also involves politics (right wing politics) and right wing social preferences, so what's the difference?

God is a personal and internal experience that has nothing to do with Trump or XI or social politics. Until you get that, your experience of God (self) will always be underwhelming and primitive.

As usual, you couldn't be more wrong! There are two invisible, spiritual kingdoms in this world: The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Darkness and these two kingdoms have been at war with one another for thousands of years -- which means by extension all the visible nations, as well, which comprise the latter kingdom. Don't you remember when Satan offered Jesus, during Christ's temptations in the wilderness, all the kingdoms of world if He would but bow down and worship him? It was Satan's to offer because God, after the fall of mankind, gave Satan this world, save for all those who have been the "seed(s) of the woman" all these millennia.

God has everything do to with the politics and the nations of this world. Everything -- because ultimately it's his world! And when Jesus the King returns, the war ends and he'll take it all back so that his Father's original intention for this planet will be finally realized which was -- a true paradise here on earth -- Eden fully restored to its pristine condition physically, spiritually and morally in which God and His Christ and the Holy Spirit will dwell here on earth with his chosen people for all eternity, while Satan and all his subjects (human and angelic alike) will suffer the Second Death in the Lake of Fire that burns with sulfur for all eternity.

Live it, love it and learn it. You heard it here first.

[Light]

Originally Posted by boxcar

As usual, you couldn't be more wrong! There are two invisible, spiritual kingdoms in this world: The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Darkness and these two kingdoms have been at war with one another for thousands of years -- which means by extension all the visible nations, as well, which comprise the latter kingdom. Don't you remember when Satan offered Jesus, during Christ's temptations in the wilderness, all the kingdoms of world if He would but bow down and worship him? It was Satan's to offer because God, after the fall of mankind, gave Satan this world, save for all those who have been the "seed(s) of the woman" all these millennia.

The Kingdom of Darkness as you call it, is only allowed to exist because the Kingdom of God allows it. There is no struggle for the Kingdom of God because he created all and can destroy all in an instant if need be. The Kingdom of Darkness serves the Kingdom of God but it is way beyond your blinkers on mentality to understand.

Originally Posted by boxcar

God has everything do to with the politics and the nations of this world. Everything -- because ultimately it's his world! And when Jesus the King returns, the war ends and he'll take it all back so that his Father's original intention for this planet will be finally realized which was -- a true paradise here on earth -- Eden fully restored to its pristine condition physically, spiritually and morally in which God and His Christ and the Holy Spirit will dwell here on earth with his chosen people for all eternity, while Satan and all his subjects (human and angelic alike) will suffer the Second Death in the Lake of Fire that burns with sulfur for all eternity.

Live it, love it and learn it. You heard it here first.

God did not create "politics". Men did. It is man's illusion through Ego that we are separated from God and our fellow man via politics. God does not operate on division but unity. Ego operates on division and because of that politics was created by man through his ego. Hitler's Aryan race could not be a better example of extreme political ego dividing humanity. Anything resembling that today via political repression of fellow human beings is ego as well and far removed from the unity of God's love.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Light

The Kingdom of Darkness as you call it, is only allowed to exist because the Kingdom of God allows it. There is no struggle for the Kingdom of God because he created all and can destroy all in an instant if need be. The Kingdom of Darkness serves the Kingdom of God but it is way beyond your blinkers on mentality to understand.

I didn't say there was a struggle for the Kingdom of God. But I did say that there is a struggle between God and Satan -- between their respective kingdoms (cf. Rev 12:7, 17; 13:7;17:14, etc.) . And, yes, God allows Satan and his army of demons to exist and to wage war against Him because this serves the eschatological and soteriological purposes of God.

God did not create "politics". Men did. It is man's illusion through Ego that we are separated from God and our fellow man via politics. God does not operate on division but unity. Ego operates on division and because of that politics was created by man through his ego. Hitler's Aryan race could not be a better example of extreme political ego dividing humanity. Anything resembling that today via political repression of fellow human beings is ego as well and far removed from the unity of God's love.

But God did ordain ("create") human government after the judgment at the Tower of Babel (see Genesis 11.) And God is very much involved with "politics", as he raises up kings and removes them (Dan 2:21, etc.). In fact, you'd do well to abolish your ignorance on such matters by studying the entire Book of Daniel!

Finally, man's separation from God is no illusion. It's quite real! It's so real, this is precisely why men must be born again if they ever hope to understand the kingdom of God!

So, what we have here (again!) is two great spiritual kingdoms engaged in mortal combat, with all the nations of this world under the sway of the Kingdom of Darkness, --- except for one "nation" (the universal and invisible Church of Christ). But the really good news is that this war will not be waged forever and Christ the King will ultimately vanquish Satan, his demons and all of Satan's spiritual "seed" of human beings.

[Light]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Finally, man's separation from God is no illusion. It's quite real! It's so real, this is precisely why men must be born again if they ever hope to understand the kingdom of God!

Your misunderstanding of the Kingdom of God is that it based on duality and separateness. Good and evil, right and wrong. This hidden message of the "oneness" of God is in the phrase of Jesus saying "Love your enemies". Note he didn't say "like".

There can be no liberation (born again) as long as you are in the illusion that you are separate from your fellow man, God or the cosmos. You are one with all and removing the Egoic created illusion that you are separate is being truly born again.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Light

Your misunderstanding of the Kingdom of God is that it based on duality and separateness. Good and evil, right and wrong. This hidden message of the "oneness" of God is in the phrase of Jesus saying "Love your enemies". Note he didn't say "like".

There can be no liberation (born again) as long as you are in the illusion that you are separate from your fellow man, God or the cosmos. You are one with all and removing the Egoic created illusion that you are separate is being truly born again.

Read the account of the fall of man someday. Adam's sin against God was real. And we can know this with certainty because Adam instinctively separated himself from his Creator when he ran and hid from Him in the garden. Just as physical death is the separation of the soul from the body, spiritual death is the separation of the soul from its Creator. Just as light cannot coexist with darkness, likewise God who is Light cannot have fellowship with darkness, which is what fallen man is (Eph 5:8). Light and darkness are like oil and water.

Why do you think Christ's kingdom is called the Kingdom of Light, while the devil's is called the Kingdom of Darkness?

[hcap]

I will commend boxcar after all these religion threads, going back almost 20 years, for finally settling the age old philosophical question of whether or not God exists. Box has conclusively proven both religion and God cannot.

Boxcar is beyond doubt the least religious person I have ever met, and for God to appoint him his spokesperson here on earth on a horse racing board,......God must be way to stupid to be real.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

I will commend boxcar after all these religion threads, going back almost 20 years, for finally settling the age old philosophical question of whether or not God exists. Box has conclusively proven both religion and God cannot.

Boxcar is beyond doubt the least religious person I have ever met, and for God to appoint him his spokesperson here on earth on a horse racing board,......God must be way to stupid to be real.

I take that as a compliment, for my lack of religiosity, as defined by the world, is a testimony of God's grace in my life, since the biblical definition of "religious" and the world's are quite different.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

I take that as a compliment, for my lack of religiosity, as defined by the world, is a testimony of God's grace in my life, since the biblical definition of "religious" and the world's are quite different.

So you conclusively disproving the existence of God with every cruel and pompous irreligious statement you make, is complimentary?

You are so full of yourself there is no room for God.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

So you conclusively disproving the existence of God with every cruel and pompous irreligious statement you make, is complimentary?

You are so full of yourself there is no room for God.

They're only "irreligious" to those who live in the devil's domain of darkness.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

They're only "irreligious" to those who live in the devil's domain of darkness.

Don't you get it? Your own pride is the impediment. The little knowledge you have is responsible for preventing more.