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03-28-2015, 07:32 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 47
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We have two subscription lengths that I can "click on", one is 30 days and one is 365 days. What the web page said was, use it for 30 days and if you need more time contact me and I'll do another 30 days. So that's 60. Since we don't have a 60 day subscription available, then that's how its done. Some users might have more than enough time at 30, and other users will quit after 1 day, while others may need 60 days. So we've got all options covered.
Mike
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03-28-2015, 08:50 PM
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#47
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Pace Cappa
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Canada
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Fair Enough, Thanks
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04-16-2015, 02:12 PM
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#48
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Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 729
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I tried Quickhorse with the free historical data and ran into the 0.80 ROI firewall that everything seems to hit nowadays.
My question for long-term users QH is: do any of you use BRIS data with good results?
Thanks.
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04-17-2015, 05:30 PM
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#49
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
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Sorry for the mixup "Pete". I meant the QuickHorse forum. You can get to it from within QuickHorse by clicking on the HELP menu bar item, then look for forum and click on that.
Mike
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11-29-2018, 12:56 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,629
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Does anyone use this program exclusively, or just for data to help their handicapping?
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11-30-2018, 11:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,236
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Since this thread has been bumped I want point out what was mentioned in another thread about this program regarding data the program uses, whether free or as part of a subscription:
It was stated in the other thread "The Program scrapes free data and gives it away as database."
This points to a clear violation of the terms of use of the web sites from which the information is obtained. Racing data web sites all have terms of use containing language the information is for personal, noncommercial use and may not be transferred or distributed in any way, as well as stating any use of robots, spiders and scrapers are prohibited.
Due to the program violating the terms of use of the data, it is possible at some point that data will become unavailable, rendering the product useless.
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11-30-2018, 11:58 AM
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#52
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 47
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This promotion is no longer valid.
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11-30-2018, 07:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: GA
Posts: 2,860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ubercapper
Due to the program violating the terms of use of the data, it is possible at some point that data will become unavailable, rendering the product useless.
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It uses brisnet data as well.
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12-03-2018, 12:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,236
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimG
It uses brisnet data as well.
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As long as the Brisnet data file the program ingests is purchased from Brisnet, there are no issues with the terms of service I mentioned earlier in the thread. Bris, HDW, TrackMaster and others sell files which are specific to certain programs (just two examples being JCapper and RDSS) but the purchase comes from the licensed data provider.
I just checked the QuickHorse software page and noted this language
FREE Horse Racing Handicapping Software w/FREE Horse Racing Data too!
The language suggests the software comes with data that was purchased and is now being given away free or the software comes with data which was obtained via scraping. Please correct me if I am wrong. If I am correct, the data is being used in violation of the terms of use.
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12-03-2018, 01:14 PM
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#55
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Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NEW YORK CITY
Posts: 3,670
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ubercapper
As long as the Brisnet data file the program ingests is purchased from Brisnet, there are no issues with the terms of service I mentioned earlier in the thread. Bris, HDW, TrackMaster and others sell files which are specific to certain programs (just two examples being JCapper and RDSS) but the purchase comes from the licensed data provider.
I just checked the QuickHorse software page and noted this language
FREE Horse Racing Handicapping Software w/FREE Horse Racing Data too!
The language suggests the software comes with data that was purchased and is now being given away free or the software comes with data which was obtained via scraping. Please correct me if I am wrong. If I am correct, the data is being used in violation of the terms of use.
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Why dont you let it be dude....
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12-07-2018, 10:53 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,236
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikesal57
Why dont you let it be dude....
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Why is pointing out giving away the data free, or reselling data that was purchased for personal use, a problem for you?
The questions that should be asked are - Why didn't the creator of this handicapping program go to any of a number of licensed resellers (like Bris, TrackMaster, Equibase and HDW) and agree to pay a small royalty to allow users to have a sample file as well as work with the reseller to sell program specific files on any of the sites, or if the program reads files already available on the sites, to negotiate marketing the program and perhaps get a royalty on those data file sales?
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12-07-2018, 11:05 AM
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#57
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Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NEW YORK CITY
Posts: 3,670
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ubercapper
Why is pointing out giving away the data free, or reselling data that was purchased for personal use, a problem for you?
The questions that should be asked are - Why didn't the creator of this handicapping program go to any of a number of licensed resellers (like Bris, TrackMaster, Equibase and HDW) and agree to pay a small royalty to allow users to have a sample file as well as work with the reseller to sell program specific files on any of the sites, or if the program reads files already available on the sites, to negotiate marketing the program and perhaps get a royalty on those data file sales?
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here we go again......
there are a number of sellers here that dont go that way..are you going to see if they are violating things too???
How is QH getting their figs to give out instead of charging?
Most likely paying for it...
So if they are buying and then converting it to their own numbers , they are doing what every other programmer is doing.....but hes giving it out for free ...its this decision!!!!
So whats the f^%$&*g problem?
Last edited by mikesal57; 12-07-2018 at 11:07 AM.
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12-07-2018, 12:01 PM
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Authorized Advertiser
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Oakland, Ca
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How does Mike get all these free pages of advertising here? If he's an advertiser--it doesn't mention that.
I'm not allowed to even mention my programs without paying for the privilege (it's not cheap either)
I apologize for getting in your business, Mike G. I'm just wondering how that works--NCG
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12-07-2018, 12:34 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NEW YORK CITY
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
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How does Mike get all these free pages of advertising here? If he's an advertiser--it doesn't mention that.
I'm not allowed to even mention my programs without paying for the privilege (it's not cheap either)
I apologize for getting in your business, Mike G. I'm just wondering how that works--NCG
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Mike G isnt doing anything...its these jealous a-holes with no business sticking their noses in...
BTW Gregg...It says " Authorized Advertiser- Pace-View.com" ...So why cant you mention your stuff?
Last edited by mikesal57; 12-07-2018 at 12:37 PM.
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12-11-2018, 11:27 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
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How does Mike get all these free pages of advertising here? If he's an advertiser--it doesn't mention that.
I'm not allowed to even mention my programs without paying for the privilege (it's not cheap either)
I apologize for getting in your business, Mike G. I'm just wondering how that works--NCG
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Those are old posts...he was an authorized advertiser.
I don't go back and delete the posts he made after his advertising term ends...and I won't do that to you either.
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