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10-30-2018, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
Correct.
The fastest anything can possibly accelerate to is the speed of light.
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Actually no. The fastest anything can travel is the speed of C.
Photon particles ( light ) travel at C in a vacuum. ( inert space)...
But light actually travels slower than other particles in different mediums such as water or glass. Or particle rich atmosphere's like Earth,
In water, Light ( Photon Particles) travel slower than a Neutrino Particle for example..
Other particles travel faster than light here on earth.. But no particle can travel faster than C.
E=MC2
Nothing faster than C. Multiple things are faster than Light. ( in common mediums)
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10-30-2018, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuss
Actually no. The fastest anything can travel is the speed of C.
Photon particles ( light ) travel at C in a vacuum. ( inert space)...
But light actually travels slower than other particles in different mediums such as water or glass. Or particle rich atmosphere's like Earth,
In water, Light ( Photon Particles) travel slower than a Neutrino Particle for example..
Other particles travel faster than light here on earth.. But no particle can travel faster than C.
E=MC2
Nothing faster than C. Multiple things are faster than Light. ( in common mediums)
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The speed of light in a vacuum is C
So what?
You are arguing a moot point based on misunderstanding how light speed is symbolized mathematically
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10-30-2018, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
The speed of light in a vacuum is C
So what?
You are arguing a moot point based on misunderstanding how light speed is symbolized mathematically
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Do you have to be mean and nasty on every subject? Do you ever practice grace?
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10-30-2018, 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
The speed of light in a vacuum is C
So what?
You are arguing a moot point based on misunderstanding how light speed is symbolized mathematically
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I'm not arguing. Its a point of clarification. Carry on. Thanks
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10-30-2018, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
Do you have to be mean and nasty on every subject? Do you ever practice grace?
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Hugh, that was not meant in any way to be mean or nasty. If it came across as such, I apologize
Why are you picking a fight may I ask?
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10-30-2018, 07:53 PM
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Let me preface this by saying that I don't know a thing about physics. That said, I wish I could get a bet down that our understanding of physics is largely wrong. I'd like to bet that we have some of the right answers, but in many cases it's for the wrong reasons. I'd also like to bet it's possible to travel faster than the speed of light, but since all our models are wrong we don't know that yet.
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10-30-2018, 07:57 PM
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I'm not arguing. Its a point of clarification. Carry on. Thanks
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That what I was trying to do. Attempting to clear up the symbolism of that famous formula. You are correct that light moves slower in a medium or non-vacuum, but the actual maximum speed of light is always refereed to in a vacuum
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10-30-2018, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Hugh, that was not meant in any way to be mean or nasty. If it came across as such, I apologize
Why are you picking a fight may I ask?
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because you seem angry in every post. Even though you and I are polar opposites in politics, I respect you and wish you well Harry. I don't like seeing every one of your posts be angry. Lighten up. We only have so much time left on Earth. Let's use it more wisely.
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10-30-2018, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
because you seem angry in every post. Even though you and I are polar opposites in politics, I respect you and wish you well Harry. I don't like seeing every one of your posts be angry. Lighten up. We only have so much time left on Earth. Let's use it more wisely.
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Perhaps you wear your own filters towards me after our disagreements on AGW.
But thanks for the kind words Tom. I wish you well
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10-30-2018, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I'd also like to bet it's possible to travel faster than the speed of light, but since all our models are wrong we don't know that yet.
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Science is based on observation. Nothing yet has been observed to be faster than light traveling in a vacuum.
Oh, there was one exception perhaps. I forgot about her.
There was a young lady named Bright
Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day
In a relative way
And returned on the previous night.
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10-30-2018, 08:17 PM
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Perhaps you wear your own filters towards me after our disagreements on AGW.
But thanks for the kind words Tom. I wish you well
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AGW is a fun topic. I hold no ill will on anything related to that. Perhaps my rhetoric gets heavy on that subject, but believe me, I like where my side is at these days. Time is on our side. Hillary losing must have really pissed you off, because if I were on your side, it would have pissed me off. She was the AGW's golden ticket in my opinion, and the train would not have been stopped. Proves that God exists, if only for His sport.
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10-30-2018, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
Science is based on observation. Nothing yet has been observed to be faster than light traveling in a vacuum.
Oh, there was one exception perhaps. I forgot about her.
There was a young lady named Bright
Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day
In a relative way
And returned on the previous night.
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She has too much energy for me.
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10-30-2018, 08:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyfox
Correct.
The fastest anything can possibly accelerate to is the speed of light.
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I never mentioned traveling at the speed of light.
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10-30-2018, 08:35 PM
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Yes, but I was making the point that for something to accelerate, force must be constantly added.
Momentum however describes the property of inertia (second laws) maintaining a fixed velocity due to a one time acting force.
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The furthest objects observed in the universe are also the fastest moving objects. They are the basis for the common theory of expansion.
What would be your explanation for this? Laws of physics aren't always complicated and the Hubble redshift is self-explanatory.
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10-30-2018, 08:38 PM
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Talk about timely. I read 25% of this today. Pretty Cool.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/s...milky-way.html
Trolling the Monster in the Heart of the Milky Way
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