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01-25-2018, 07:18 PM
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Amnesty Don
Breitbarts headline not mine...
Didn't see that one coming.
How are you immigration hawks feeling?
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01-25-2018, 07:32 PM
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Real easy, hundreds of things can go wrong, Chuck Schumer is no longer relevant. Poison pills for the bill are handy, don't expect much here.
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01-25-2018, 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Breitbarts headline not mine...
Didn't see that one coming.
How are you immigration hawks feeling?
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If it ends daca, forever. I like it. Of course I'm only an observer.
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01-25-2018, 07:52 PM
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Meanwhile nothing signed and raids by ICE every day, don't count those chickens yet.
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01-25-2018, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
If it ends daca, forever. I like it. Of course I'm only an observer.
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He's giving Amnesty to all if then 2x over.
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01-25-2018, 07:54 PM
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End chain migration, end lottery, secure borders.
Works for me.
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01-25-2018, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
Meanwhile nothing signed and raids by ICE every day, don't count those chickens yet.
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THIS. IS. THE. OFFICIAL. WHITE. HOUSE. POSITION.
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01-25-2018, 07:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
He's giving Amnesty to all if then 2x over.
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but also building wall, ending chain migration and lottery program..
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01-25-2018, 08:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schweitz
End chain migration, end lottery, secure borders.
Works for me.
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01-25-2018, 08:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
He's giving Amnesty to all if then 2x over.
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The Donald is evolving.
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A man's got to know his limitations. -- Dirty Harry
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01-25-2018, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Wrong you dumb dummy:
http://www.vdare.com/posts/chain-mig...on-choking-usa
From the article:
If President Donald Trump stops illegal immigration entirely, it won’t make much of a difference in the long run. “Chain migration” continues to drive record immigration into the United States.
[It’s Time To End Chain Migration, December 15, 2017]
Naturally, the way the Left is pushing back against the effort to end chain migration is by pathologizing the term itself, making debate impossible.In response to the White House push to end chain migration, immigration expansionists and the media are doing their best to taint the phrase. Google “so-called chain migration” and you get hits from CNN, The Hill, the New York Daily News, Politico, and plenty of others. The New York Times has labeled the term “pejorative,” while the Wall Street Journal reports (in a news story, just to be clear) that “Mr. Trump and his allies have begun derisively using the term ‘chain migration.’” The Associated Press refers to “what critics and the White House refer to as ‘chain migration,’” while the Washington Post writes about “a practice that critics call ‘chain migration.’”
Immigration expansionists who aren’t reporters, on both the right and left, have also weighed in. Technology immigration lobbyist Stuart Anderson, for instance, writes on “the myth of chain migration,” claiming that it’s “a contrived term that seeks to put a negative light on a phenomenon that has taken place throughout the history of the country.” His allies at People for the American Way call it “the anti-immigration movement’s term for policies that allow immediate families to stay together,” while Media Matters derides the term as “a misleading nativist buzzword.”
Of course, until ten minutes ago, “chain migration” was just the regular term for earlier immigrants’ sponsoring future immigrants.
[Just Don’t Call It ‘Chain Migration!’ by Mark Krikorian, National Review, December 21, 2017]
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01-25-2018, 08:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schweitz
End chain migration, end lottery, secure borders.
Works for me.
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The way Elitist ET writes you would think there was no win in this. Not saying letting Daca stay is good (and who knows if the fight is really over) but there may be some realpolitik reasons to compromise. The three things you mention above are nothing to sneeze at.
And imagine what we would have under President H Clinton or Sanders or Rubio, or Son of Boosh the sequel. We've done pretty good under Donald even with his flaws.
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01-25-2018, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
In response to the White House push to end chain migration, immigration expansionists and the media are doing their best to taint the phrase.
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And Joe Biden was once again a man ahead of his time.
Quote:
"He is going to put y'all back in chains."
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01-25-2018, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
And imagine what we would have under President H Clinton or Sanders or Rubio, or Son of Boosh the sequel. We've done pretty good under Donald even with his flaws.
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The gang if eight proposal led by Rubio in 2013 was STRONGER than this and Republicans turned it down because it offered... Amnesty.
Tell me again how this is different than basically the entire GOP field in the primaries?
Doesn't matter his base should be furious with him... Breitbart is... but they won't be.
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 01-25-2018 at 08:38 PM.
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01-25-2018, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
The Donald is evolving.
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Didn't we see this coming when he extended DACA instead of just killing it last fall?
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